I use VoiceOver both on a mac mini I have at home and on my iPhone 3gs and find it very useable. The only times I use windows is at work because I find the operating system's stability questionable and regular security requirements to be a major drawback. When I got my Apple Computer, I installed all of the software on it myself without sighted assistance and I've been totally blind from birth. For any would-be mac user who is starting out with a new machine to install who has used windows first there are four things to remember which will help you get the job done. 1) There is no alt key on the mac; it's called command and you'll understand why this is very important shortly. 2) In order to toggle VoiceOver on and off, the key combination is command-f5. 3) Failure to respond to screen prompts when you start installing a modern Apple operating system like Tiger; Leopard, and snow leopard will get VoiceOver started talking to you automatically and prompting you all the way through your installation. 4) The help key combination on the computer is command-question mark. 5) When you get asked during installation if you'd like to learn how to use your mac, good idea to answer yes and go through the introductory tutorial. Sorry, calculator ran out of coffee and can't count all that well this morning. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 17:54 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Accessibility guides and research studies from Microsoft Just how accessible is apple these days anyway? I heard some interesting things about voiceover but, I've never run across another screen reader user who's actually made the switch. Are all applications accessible using it? Wonder how coding, word processing and browsing work with it. Alex On 6/25/10, katherine Moss <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Thanks a lot. If only Microsoft Corp would be as proactive as Apple in > making their products accessible right from the source and not having us > have to install extra software just for accessibility purposes. I mean > seriously. > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:11 AM > To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Accessibility guides and research studies from Microsoft > > From the archive > > http://EmpowermentZone.com/ms_acc_doc.zip > > This archive contains accessibility guides and research studies from > microsoft.com. Each .doc or .pdf file also has a .txt version. > Printer-friendly versions of .htm files were chosen. The about 30 > document titles are listed below. > > Jamal > > The Market for Accessible Technology - The Wide Range of Abilities and Its > Impact on Computer Use > > Accessibility in Internet Explorer 7 > > Accessibility in Internet Explorer 8 > > Accessibility in Office 2003 > > Accessibility in Office 2007 > > Accessibility in Windows 7 > > Accessibility in Windows Vista > > Accessibility Transitioning to Windows 7 > > Accessibility Tutorials for Windows Vista > > Accessible Technology - A Guide for Educators > > Accessible Technology in Computing - Examining Awareness, Use, and Future > Potential > > Assistive Technology Decision Tree > > Computing Guide for Boomers > > Developing an Accessible Technology Plan > > Engineering for Accessibility > > Guide for Individuals with Dexterity and Mobility Impairments > > Guide for Individuals with Hearing Impairments > > Guide for Individuals with Language and Communication Impairments > > Guide for Individuals with Learning Impairments > > Guide for Individuals with Vision Impairments > > Identifying the Right Assistive Technology > > Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 Accessibility > Options > > Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 Accessibility > Options > > Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Outlook 2002 Accessibility Options > > Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Windows 2000 Accessibility Options > > Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Windows XP Accessibility Options > > Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Word 2002 Accessibility Options > > The Business Value of Integrating Accessible Technology into Business > Organizations > > Understanding Accessible Technology > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5229 (20100625) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5229 (20100625) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind