I've used them both for years - I just hadn't put spybot on my new computer until this problem popped up. I was very surprised that neither of them found the problem. the spyware doctor found 2 things that were - can't think of what they are called - that sounded like they could be connected to the problem I am having. cris ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Spotta To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: spyware - NewDotNet Very good at what they do and free! Can't beat that ; ) Chris -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/