When I got my computer.... Norton Ani-virus was installed. After the freebie time expired..I got an update note from Norton to extend the protection. For some reason... it gave me a 3 year renewal for $3.95. I thought it was a mistake..and thought they were charging me PER yr... and that it was to be able to get just updates of the virus's it protects against as opposed to software upgrades. I was wrong. They charged my card $3.95 and it showed in my Norton that it indeed was good for 3 more years. Well, a few months later..I bought windows XP.. and got Norton Systemworks and Personal Firewall for FREE..so..... I gave up the other Noton as I had nothing left on my system to prove I had it..and I did not really care. I had my hard drive reformatted and did a clean install of XP. Just thought I would share my experience. I now buy the new version of SystemWorks each year and the Personal Firewall. The changes have been worth it and it you are a smart shopper.. you can get both programs after rebates for less than $30. We have two computers running every day..and buy them for both computers... and do the Win Doctor before shutting down every night. We believe that this, coupled with Windows XP and CleanUp! keep us in good shape. Just my two cents! Rose Las Vegas ----- Original Message ----- From: "taanzaa" <taanzaa@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: anitviral Yes, it is on my system now as it was part of the software that came with the computer when I purchased it a few years back...just never upgraded the virus protection (program itself) though I have purchased the liveupdate renewal as I didn't want any nasties creeping about...since it's almost time for me to purchase another renewal I was thinking of going and purchasing the software (2003) over the counter and I was just asking your opinion on how it functions...thanks for your response. BashfulBob <BashfulBob@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: hi Ok I am and was happy with the virus protection. I think it is the best. I am not happy with what they FORCE you to do, to resolve problems. When I subscribed, paid them and it went to install the subscription, it said the live update would come up and finish doing the subscription process. It never did come up. I contacted them through email. They consider email "online contact." Email takes a while and they would not call me, they wanted me to call them at there posted rates. To call them to straighten out the problem (which involved going into the registry, which I am very reluctant to do just following written instructions) and incur the cost plus the cost of the renewal subscription amounts to more then what it would cost to purchase 2003 AV over the counter (assuming you use the cheap rate of $29.95 per incident call). That is ridiculous. Or they suggested I take it to a tech, that is about $75 per hour. In summary, if you need their assistance, you will have to pay for the call each time you call them or take it to a tech, providing you can not (for what ever reason) follow their instructions by email. Plan on, at least, several days for the email back and forth to take to resolve the issue. In short, customer satisfaction is not a requirement with them. Hope that made sense. I do not know what they charge for system works renewal subscription, but the AV subscription is $15. It can be reinstalled ( I am assuming) and that means I have to go buy it over the counter. I am assuming that since you purchased the subscription, you went thought the process of d/l it and installing it on your system. So it should be on your system now, if I understand your email correctly. Life is what happens in between plans. Virus free email by Norton's __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk