OK, look at it this way. A backup is supposed to be a system where the data will be safe no matter what happens. Like your checking account, your investment details, your company's accounts, your medical records. For a truly effective backup, a copy of the data should be stored off site. This can be at your office if the backup is from your home or in a safe deposit box; The idea is to have the data in 2 different locations. The computer is one location and the CD with the data is in another location. Now assume that your computer is rendered useless. Hit by lightning, burned up in a fire, stolen, whatever. Now you need access to your data. A packet written CD cannot be read in all machines. It requires a UDF reader and if you don't have one, you'll need to get one. Also, packet written CD's can often have trouble being read in older CD-ROM drives. This is not a good situation if you need quick access to that data on the CD. CD-R's written using the DAO/TAO method can be read in any CD-ROM that will read a CD and no UDF reader or any other decoding software is needed. The data on that CD will be instantly accessible in any computer with a CD-ROM; the bank's, your brother-in-law's, a computer in the public library or your church. That could make a big difference, depending on what the situation is that rendered your original system useless. You say you only need it for ONE system, your OWN? That's precisely why you should make a backup that can be read anywhere: Because if you really need it, chances are that YOUR system is toast. As an example, my house got hit by lightning several years ago. I was sitting at the computer, in front of a 21" monitor when there was a loud CRACK and I was blinded for about 4-5 seconds. When I could see again, I found the monitor was black, the lights were out and all the UPS were beeping throughout the house. The damage totaled over $2500 and didn't cover nearly half of what we lost, like my nice 21" monitor. My point is that my daughter is an avid Roller Coaster Tycoon player and had over 25 parks that she had created in the game on her computer. All of those were gone in an instant in a situation where we were not even suspecting anything like a thunderstorm, much less a bolt of lightning out of the blue. If this had been important data, it would have been gone. And if there had been a fire, any CD's left on her desk or in her room would have been gone as well. So if your data is truly important, treat it like it really is important. And don't confuse duplicating data from a harddrive with a true backup; they're not the same. Copying files to a CD or tape and then leaving the CD or tape on the desk next to the computer is not a backup, it's just a small safety net in case the harddrive fails. For a backup to be truly effective, the data must be complete and intact, it has to be separated from the site and it has to be easily accessible on any machine available. The type of data stored will also dictate other requirements; medical data may dictate speedy recoverability. Data accessed too late may be the same as no data at all. So do your backups however you want. Just try to imagine the most reasonable circumstances for disaster. A fire, a stolen computer, lightning strike or a defective power supply that takes out the motherboard and harddrive. What will you do now? And how soon will you be able to do it? Tom ps--DAO/TAO is Disk at Once or Track at Once. A method of writing files to a CD that involves no formatting, little overhead and leaves the files accessible just as if they were on a harddrive. This is the way most commercial CD's are written, like the ones you get with a printer or other device. Most burning programs are very simple. You just select the files to be burned to CD, tell the program whether you want to be able to add files later and click 'Burn'. milady wrote: > Now you have to explain WHAT that system is?? I never heard of it. Back ups > need to have readability in ANY system??? when I only need it for ONE system > IF I need it? In my OWN???? I think you are talking apples and oranges > here. An ordinary computer person verses maybe a guru whoes system is a > nuther story... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "T. Hunt" <ilrover@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:12 PM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Quicken Backup-- CD Burning Software > > > Like I said, I can't think of anything I'd recommend using a CD-RW for. > Certainly not backups, which need to have readability in ANY system. > And once you learn to use DAO/TAO programs, you'll never go back to > packet writing. > > But thank god someone's buying those CD-RW's, 'cause if they relied on > me, they'd go broke. > > Tom > > milady wrote: > >>I use RW all the time...for backup. I ruined too many of the other kind. >>Those can be erased and rewritten. They work for me... >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Don Wilcox" <dsw32952@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:31 PM >>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Quicken Backup-- CD Burning Software >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "T. Hunt" <ilrover@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:13 AM >>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Quicken Backup-- CD Burning Software >> >><snip> >> >>(I >>can't think of anything I would recommend using a CD-RW for.) >> >><snip> >> >>Depending on the frequency and type of back-ups you do CD-RWs or DVD RWs >>are >>perfect. >> >>Don -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005 To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk