[opendtv] Re: ATSC STB availability?
- From: <tjharvey@xxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 18:27:35 -0500
Dale,
Here in Arizona I can receive the local Phoenix stations off the back end of
the fixed antenna and Tucson off the front. The desert terrain is flat with
scattered mountains.
From Phoenix, I can receive all the high powered DTV broadcasts from Tucson
without difficulty: considering the distance from Tucson which is about 100
miles distant, the typical signal margin is about 7dB above the minimum C/N of
15dB.
I have a coaxial cable run of about 100ft with no preamp: the backend reception
from the stations in Phoenix will easily overload any preamplification I have
tried. Interestingly, all of the Tucson analog NTSC reception is Grade 2 or so
and is difficult to watch. The DTV is clear with no noticable dropout: the 100
mile DTV reception is as good as the local.
I have noticed that with rain (and it has been heavy here of late) I lose three
of the Tucson stations due to attenuation: four of the Tucson station remain
despite the heavy rain.
Best regards,
Terry Harvey
>
> From: "Dale Kelly" <dalekelly@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2005/03/08 Tue PM 12:10:13 EST
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: ATSC STB availability?
>
> Terry,
> Encouraging report, how would you describe your RF environment. i.e.;
> Terrain, TV/DTV channel congestion, close in strong signals, etc?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Harvey" <tjharvey@xxxxxxx>
> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 10:26 PM
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: ATSC STB availability?
>
>
> >I bought one of the Hisense boxes and encouraged others to buy a few more.
> > I have found the box to be a good perfomer. If the decision to carry it is
> > true (I will check our local outlets), it has nothing to do with
> > performance.
> >
> > There has been no attempt on the part of Walmart to advertise or promote
> > the box. When I went buy the box a couple of months ago. I had to go
> > through three Walmart staff to be led to a concealed closed cupboard to
> > where two units were tucked under other stocked items!
> >
> > Incidently, with the Hisense receiver I receive 16 DTV OTA stations with
> > no
> > problem from where I live. And seven of the stations are 100 air miles or
> > more from my home. (I do use a roof top antenna).
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Terry Harvey
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:07 PM 3/7/2005, Stephen W. Long wrote:
> >>The USDTV box is no longer being sold by the WalMart nearest my house.
> >>The
> >>electronics manager said the units kept being returned (the last one on
> >>the
> >>shelf had been purchased and returned three times). The manager said they
> >>would not stock the item any more. He thought this was a corporate wide
> >>decision.
> >>
> >>One might speculate about why the units were returned. I asked the
> >>manager
> >>why he thought the units were returned. He said he thought it was because
> >>of confusion about HDTV. He said people bought the unit expecting to get
> >>HDTV on their existing SDTV sets. He did not know about reception
> >>reliability, did not offer any information.
> >>
> >>When my wife and I were on my extended trip (3 months) touring the USA in
> >>our RV last year, we stopped at many WalMarts, parked overnight in several
> >>of their parking lots. WalMart is not my favorate store, but I have
> >>learned to respect their business abilities and I can now see the
> >>attraction in it by so many people - the prices are lower than most any
> >>other store, and I made the observation that you can really see a
> >>significant portion of the so called middle America in the isles. This is
> >>where many people, particularly in small towns and rural area, do much of
> >>their shopping. WalMart is an important store in much of this country. I
> >>think it is telling that WalMart does not appear to be selling a
> >>stand-alone ATSC set-top box. My sample size is one store, but the manger
> >>said he thought it was a corporate decision. Has anyone on this list
> >>attempted to recently purchase (or at least check out) the availability of
> >>USDTV boxes at their local WalMart? If we confirm that WalMart is not
> >>selling ATSC boxes, what does that say about the roll out of ATSC to the
> >>vast bulk of America?
> >>
> >>At 07:22 PM 3/7/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >It may have changed but the last I heard you could still get one of the
> >> >USDTV non-subscription boxes (under whatever name) at Walmart in cities
> >> >USDTV does not service.
> >> >
> >> >- Tom
> >> >
> >> >Dale Kelly wrote:
> >> >> Does anyone know if ATSC STB receivers, of any make or model, are
> >>currently available to consumers? I assume that USDTV, DirecTV and other
> >>"bundled" receivers might still be available but am not certain of even
> >>that.
> >> >> I believe we (opendtv) recently determined that nothing is available
> >>utilizing 5G technology, except perhaps for Bob's new project, but is
> >>anyone aware of anything using even a 4G technology?
> >> >>
> >> >>
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