[opendtv] Re: A Station Group with a Future

  • From: "Allen Le Roy Limberg" <allimberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:57:18 -0500

Making it tough on a lot of tortilla shops, I hear.  I have fond memories of an 
old gal just off the cathedral square in Puerto Vajarta, who is probably dead 
now, but made the best damned breakfast tortillas I ever ate.  Al Limberg
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Willkie 
  To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 6:19 PM
  Subject: [opendtv] Re: A Station Group with a Future


  The first analysis that oil production had peaked came in 1919.  There were 
others, in 1923 and 1926.  The 1927 "Spindletop" discovery in East Texas took 
care of the latter one.

   

  And, all these are "static" analyses.  If the price goes up, there's more 
exploration, and it becomes cost-effective to get oil from locations that were 
previously too expensive.  Capped wells become uncapped and are pumped.  More 
dynamic than static analyses take into account.

   

  Notice the post-Katarina effects.  Short-term price spikes (but no long lines 
at gas stations, unlike 1973-1974, and no rationing).  Oil went up, and now 
there's a glut.  Prices have come down, although they might have leveled off in 
recent weeks.

   

  This is without talking about what Sunni Saudi Arabia is doing with pricing 
and pumping to hurt Shia Iran and godless (at the highest levels) Venezuela . 
(Iran exports oil, but imports most of its refined gasoline.)

   

  John Willkie, somewhat a purist on this matter since he usually takes public 
transportation and hasn't had heating in his home for more than 7 years, and 
(mostly) lives in a country that exports more oil than it uses domestically.  

   

  P.S.  Anybody else notice the disruption of ethanol on retail corn (tortilla) 
prices in Mexico?

   

   

   


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  From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Mark Aitken
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:15 PM
  To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [opendtv] Re: A Station Group with a Future

   

  Here is a good piece about "Peak Oil"

  http://wapurl.co.uk/?ETEOPT9

  Mark
  the one that agrees that we are TOO lazy and need to face the facts - 
petroleum is an important RAW MATERIAL - (not just the source for gas for too 
many cars)

  PS - FUSION POWER! We need it now!

  Manfredi, Albert E wrote: 

Bob Miller wrote:   Whether or not humans have had any affect on the climateso 
far we should be doing everything we can to be ableto do so in the future since 
it looks like change isinevitable.     In the mid 1970s, the word was we were 
moving back to an ice age. Morerecently, everyone seems to agree we are in a 
warming period, and thatthese occur on a regular cycle of several 100s of 
thoussands of years.And after the peak, you start heading back to an ice age. 
In the past decade or so, the general consensus among those who studythese 
things was that for sure we were in a warming trend, but it wasunknown whether 
humans had a very significant effect on this. The latest twist in this past 
week, maybe caused by reporters notinterpreting correctly what they are being 
told (why does that soundfamiliar?), is that human-caused CO2 emissions that 
are the biggestcontributor to global warming. And that it will keep getting 
warmer. http://www.wtop.com/?nid=220&sid=1048620 A model presented at a 
symposium I attended recently showed oceansalinity decreasing somewhat with 
melting ice at the poles, reducing thestrength of the gulf stream and other 
such currents, which is whateventually turns the warming trend around. Whatever 
the truth might be, there is enough here to worry about thatthere should be no 
excuse for self-indulgent wanton waste, IMO. WhenExxon-Mobile reports record 
profits, people seem to be miffed becausesupposedly they are "paying too much 
for fuel." But when I look aroundon the road, seems to me they still aren't 
paying enough. Bert  
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