Making it tough on a lot of tortilla shops, I hear. I have fond memories of an old gal just off the cathedral square in Puerto Vajarta, who is probably dead now, but made the best damned breakfast tortillas I ever ate. Al Limberg ----- Original Message ----- From: John Willkie To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: A Station Group with a Future The first analysis that oil production had peaked came in 1919. There were others, in 1923 and 1926. The 1927 "Spindletop" discovery in East Texas took care of the latter one. And, all these are "static" analyses. If the price goes up, there's more exploration, and it becomes cost-effective to get oil from locations that were previously too expensive. Capped wells become uncapped and are pumped. More dynamic than static analyses take into account. Notice the post-Katarina effects. Short-term price spikes (but no long lines at gas stations, unlike 1973-1974, and no rationing). Oil went up, and now there's a glut. Prices have come down, although they might have leveled off in recent weeks. This is without talking about what Sunni Saudi Arabia is doing with pricing and pumping to hurt Shia Iran and godless (at the highest levels) Venezuela . (Iran exports oil, but imports most of its refined gasoline.) John Willkie, somewhat a purist on this matter since he usually takes public transportation and hasn't had heating in his home for more than 7 years, and (mostly) lives in a country that exports more oil than it uses domestically. P.S. Anybody else notice the disruption of ethanol on retail corn (tortilla) prices in Mexico? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Aitken Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:15 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: A Station Group with a Future Here is a good piece about "Peak Oil" http://wapurl.co.uk/?ETEOPT9 Mark the one that agrees that we are TOO lazy and need to face the facts - petroleum is an important RAW MATERIAL - (not just the source for gas for too many cars) PS - FUSION POWER! We need it now! Manfredi, Albert E wrote: Bob Miller wrote: Whether or not humans have had any affect on the climateso far we should be doing everything we can to be ableto do so in the future since it looks like change isinevitable. In the mid 1970s, the word was we were moving back to an ice age. Morerecently, everyone seems to agree we are in a warming period, and thatthese occur on a regular cycle of several 100s of thoussands of years.And after the peak, you start heading back to an ice age. In the past decade or so, the general consensus among those who studythese things was that for sure we were in a warming trend, but it wasunknown whether humans had a very significant effect on this. The latest twist in this past week, maybe caused by reporters notinterpreting correctly what they are being told (why does that soundfamiliar?), is that human-caused CO2 emissions that are the biggestcontributor to global warming. And that it will keep getting warmer. http://www.wtop.com/?nid=220&sid=1048620 A model presented at a symposium I attended recently showed oceansalinity decreasing somewhat with melting ice at the poles, reducing thestrength of the gulf stream and other such currents, which is whateventually turns the warming trend around. Whatever the truth might be, there is enough here to worry about thatthere should be no excuse for self-indulgent wanton waste, IMO. WhenExxon-Mobile reports record profits, people seem to be miffed becausesupposedly they are "paying too much for fuel." But when I look aroundon the road, seems to me they still aren't paying enough. Bert ----------------------------------------------------------------------You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. -- ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>Regards,Mark A. 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