[oagitm] Re: Microsoft License Agreement
- From: Randy Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "davidcu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <davidcu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "oagitm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oagitm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Pat.Hartley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Pat.Hartley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ANDERSON.DEAN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ANDERSON.DEAN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:57:28 -0800
I think a lot of it depends on where you are to start. In a previous job I did
pay as you go and kept it up like dean does and it worked well. Here, we had
"acquired" $200k in lincenses inappropriately before I started. In that case
the EA was way, way cheaper than any other route. Now that I'm on it, it will
take something pretty major to make it cost effective to change.
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From: DEAN ANDERSON [ANDERSON.DEAN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Received: Wednesday, 19 Jan 2011, 1:42pm
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Subject: [oagitm] Re: Microsoft License Agreement
How well a pay-as-you-go works, depends how you do it. We do what Lake Oswego
does (Chip said it much better though). We are very standardized, control
purchases, upgrades, etc... It seems to work pretty well for us.
Dean Anderson
IT Director
Polk County
>>> Randy Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 1/19/2011 1:38 PM >>>
I concur. Once you let your maintenance go you have to repurchase the licenses.
It's going to be much better in the long run to keep up with it.
Also, do you really want to let IT upgrade policy be set by how much money your
agency feels it has right then? I inherited an organization like that. We had
every version of Office and Windows that had been released in the last ten
years. It may save money on the front end, but supporting a heterogeneous
network is way more expensive in the end. True savings in support comes from
standardization.
Did I mention that when you do decide to upgrade you have to buy all those
licenses again? Those who are only doing pay as you go do not have the same
business case you do. You have already invested in all those licenses and are
only paying maintenance. You will lose that by terminating the EA.
*R*
Randy Paul
Information Technology Director
Klamath County Oregon
316 Main Street, Room 20
Klamath Falls, OR 97601
541-883-5142
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From: oagitm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oagitm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Cummings, David
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:29 PM
To: Pat.Hartley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oagitm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [oagitm] Re: Microsoft License Agreement
All I can say is that true up down the road is a killer, and you eventually
will want to true up. To do this is robbing Peter to pay Paul. I would only do
this as a last resort.
Just my 2 cents.
Dave
From: oagitm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oagitm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Hartley, Pat
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:10 PM
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Subject: [oagitm] Microsoft License Agreement
Folks,
As we here at the City are looking at a rather bleak next few years, I am
considering every line item for potential reduction... I think y'all have been
there at one point or another.
Among one of our biggest yearly ticket items is our Microsoft License
Agreement. I am considering dropping it and going to a pay as I go model.
Still running the numbers to see if that works, but was wondering if anyone
else on the list has done this and what challenges they saw.
Any and all feedback is very appreciated.
~Pat
Patrick H. Hartley
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