[ncolug] Re: Minix3

  • From: MrKnisely <mrknisely@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:16:37 -0500

David Rakestraw wrote:

I agree...mostly, but installed minix3 on a usb stick just for the hell of it
and was impressed that it boot without problems on my laptop.

Although this is not a Desktop OS, there is less and less need for desktops
and more need for fast, cheap, simple, networkable OSs. As networks and the
Internet get faster and more efficient, these little guys can be used on very
inexpensive devices to connect network appliances or "throw-away" devices.
Remote desktops to Xservers using cheap expendable devices for example.


---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Larry D" <larry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ncolug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:44:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [ncolug] Re: Minix3



The chances that in ten years you will be using Minix and/or Minix
derived concepts are far greater than you still using Linux in ten years.

Henry


"In ten years, we will also be driving cars that run on used french-
fry oil."

Both statements seem to make some sense at first glance. (Well, at least
one of them does.) Both are false.

We won't be driving cars that run on used french-fry oil because there isn't enough french-fry oil in the world, used or otherwise, to replace even 1% of the fuel used by cars in a month.

Here is why you won't be using Minix:

In terms of technology, it is roughly equivalent to running DOS. A quote
from the Minix website:
"MINIX 3 is initially targeted at the following areas:"
"Single-chip, small-RAM, low-power, $100 laptops for Third-World children"

We won't be using it, because we are not third-world children, and we need more of an OS than DOS.

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"Life is too short, to spend it waiting for slow hardware to do something...."
             - Dev

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Do you think people like you and me will ever be building these throw-away devices, or will children in the Phillapines who are paid 1/17th our minimum wage be making them?

Beyond that, will you or I be troubleshooting these throw-away devices or, when they break, will we just toss them?

Assuming you or I want to tinker with one of these throw away devices, do you think you or I will need to understand the system calls, or do you think the maufacturer will have a happy litte web-based gui for us to use?

If what we want is not in the gui, do you think you and I'll hack together what we want or do you think the 17-25ish people of that generation with loads of extra energy and time will be doing all the crazy hacking before you or I could even think it would be a good idea?

I'm not against knowlage for the sake of knowlage; however, I need to ration my intake. I've got pleanty to learn and not enought time to learn it. Prioritizaion is what I use to decide what to learn. The answers, to me, to the above questions are clear.

Mike K.


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