[modeleng] Re: SVR rail crash
- From: "R.L. Roebuck" <rlr20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:08:06 +0000 (GMT)
Ah - 35000 pounds seems more plausible...
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Paul Sherriff wrote:
> Hold on :) the system is changing my pounds to 3's
>
> The cost is 35000 pounds
>
> Hope that comes out correctly
>
> I think if something was possible to build and meet all the red tape and
> standards they would have done it by now...they don't like people bending
> their engines
...well, yes and no. Is this one of those cases where people are wary of
doing something because of the laws that relate to it, because there has
say, never been a test case of someone coming up with there own design of
barrier, and RHDR and worried that they might get tangled up in a court
case?
That is normally a winning reason for avoiding doing something, but maybe
the recent events might put a different slant on it, especially if they
face worse court action for not having installed any kind of barriers.
Do any of our legal eagles have a viewpoint on this?
Yours,
Rich.
> Rgds
>
> Paul
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of R.L. Roebuck
> Sent: 16 December 2004 13:47
> To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [modeleng] Re: SVR rail crash
>
> Hi there Paul,
>
> Surely the automatic crossings only cost 335000 pounds for the type that
> the fullsize railways use because of all of the extra safety features that
> they use to make sure that barriers don't fail to come down properly.
>
> BUT
>
> In the case of RHDR where you are operating without barriers anyway,
> anything would be better than nothing. Surely someone could design
> something that would make the situation a bit safer for the loco driver
> and passengers for onbly a handful of thousand pounds a time, and these
> could be installed on the 'worst' crossings.
>
> OR
>
> Is the 335000 pounds to do with some department of transport related
> costs?
>
> Don't get me wrong, I 100% agree with you that we shouldn't have to go
> down this route, it is the idiots in the cars who try to jump the lights
> that are to blame, but I always like to do my best in life to not let the
> idiots have any kind of 'say' as to whether I live or die; and I do have
> this fear that our steam 'activities' may one day get severely curtailed
> as a knock on effect of the idiots, unless we are incredibly careful.
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
> Rich.
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Paul Sherriff wrote:
>
> > I used to be involved with the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch railway a few
> > years and having been on the footplate a few times, I can say that when =
> > you
> > approached the 'notorious' crossings, your heart was in your mouth. One
> > crossing in particular was on the approach to Hythe and seemed to be =
> > where
> > all the recent accidents have been. Don't know why...
> >
> > I was on the footplate with one well known driver on the railway, Mike
> > Jaques, when a landrover shot across the front of us a mere 10-15' =
> > away. He
> > said there would be a phone call to the office from an angry local =
> > resident
> > complaining that the lights were not working and he was nearly hit by a
> > train.
> >
> > Crap... The lights come on when the train is about 200yds from the =
> > crossing
> > and we see a flashing white light from the footplate, a mirror on the =
> > lamp
> > the motorists see... Along with full sized A4 style (and 2 original A4)
> > whistles, blasting away as a matter of course there is no excuse.
> >
> > The RHDR can't afford barriered crossings, they cost =A335,000 each and =
> > the
> > railway doesn't make that much spare cash in 2 years...and there are 16
> > crossings.
> >
> > A loco (Black Prince) was taken off the tracks a couple of years ago, =
> > no one
> > was seriously injured but last year, Kevin Crouch, a lovely lad who was =
> > a
> > regular signalman at Hythe with me was killed when driving 'Samson'
> >
> > Would you believe that a woman, impatient to wait behind several cars =
> > that
> > had parked up waiting for the train to cross, overtook them and =
> > collided
> > with the loco. She lived, although how she did in a Ford Escort as =
> > opposed
> > to 22 tons of engine, 32 tons of carriages and 4 or 5 tons of people =
> > still
> > beggars belief. Kevin was killed in between the 'scissored' engine and
> > tender.
> >
> > I just don't understand the mentality of people like this and the more =
> > I
> > learn about these people the more I love my dog...
> >
> > Sorry for sounding off but at least I have delurked now...
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> > Paul
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