[modeleng] Re: FW: Question about phase converters
- From: "Dave Beaman" <davebeaman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 20:18:30 -0000
The fixed bit is if it is fixed or can be. is a doorbell a fixed piece of
equipment? As an electrician, I get asked sooooo many questions, get quoted
sooooo many silly statements. I could go on for hours but in the end, if you
have any doubt if you "amateur" installation would comply, get in touch with
a proven electrician. I would say a NIC/EIC electrician, but history now
shows they are not all reliable, in fact, only 25% are and that's the
standard.
if you're going to wire your workshop, a split fuseboard with an RCD breaker
for the second side is a must. If anyone wants any info here, give me a
shout off list.
Dave.
----- Original Message -----
From: <peter.chadwick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: FW: Question about phase converters
Andy said:
>Regarding the "permanent installation", it could be argued that a Lathe
or
Mill is a "fixed appliance" and, therefore, should be connected to mains
electricity by the approved methods. A 13A plug into a socket would not
be
approved, even if the M/C load did not exceed the capacity of the Plug. It
might be a mute point, however, when - as I think I said - I've seen too
many Central Heating installations, Cooker Hobs and the like so connected.
<
This is an interesting argument, because if the power consumption is such
that it can safely be powered from a 13 amp plug, it's arguable that a
lathe or mill is no more a fixed installation than a washing machine. They
all come with 13amp plugs........and as the washing machine needs
connections to water, it's more of a fixed installation than a lathe.
>By the time you read this, you'll probably be back in Swindon. If so,
welcome home and enjoy your rest - until the next flight abroad on
business.<
Yes - until tomorrow, when I'm off again, but this time only to Antibes
on the Cote d'Azur for a one day meeting. But it looks a bit like it
may be back to California next week. Already at 12 noon feeling the jet
lag...Yawn!
Peter Chadwick
Swindon.
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