That might be so but it isn't helpful though. How does one know
what
character he/she is on? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just
trying to get a fix cause as I say, in reality when I move my
left or
right arrow keys, the character I have just left is being repeated.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
Poehlman
Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 8:35 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Edit fields was Re: Learning the
keyboard.
this is fixed behaviour since the cursor is never on a character
but
between
characters when it is at rest, changing direction will repeat the
character on the way back. Note, it is helpful in that it is a
more
precise way of measuring your position with respect to a character.
This is not voice over
behavior but voiceover reflecting the behavior of the user
interface.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Edit fields was Re: Learning the keyboard.
HI,
Talking about edit fields, how do you set voiceover up so it
doesn't
repeat the same character you have just left? For example, I
will be
moving across a document in a text editor under leopard with my
right
and left arrow keys, voiceover will read d a v I d as I am moving
the
right arrow key.
That's
fine but when I move the left arrow back, it will read d even
though
really I am on the I and when I move the right arrow to land on
d, it
will read i.
It does this through a line of text so after a while you kind've
loose where you are. This was especially annoying when I had to
enter serial numbers for my audio hijack pro and recently VmWare
Fusion.
Please don't tell me that I have to gain more experience with the
Mac
and it is something I will learn to get use to smile. There must
be
a fix.
Thanks in advance for any help on the above,
David Truong
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davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob
Schmude
Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 7:12 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
Hi
Actually, arrows move you around in a wordprocessor just fine,
along
with lists, and just about anywhere else you could use them in
windows. What might be happening to you is that the arrow keys
you're
pressing simply aren't moving you anywhere, either because you're
not
in a place you can use them or because there's no items for them to
move you to. An example of this would be on the desktop, if you
don't
have any other drives plugged in or CDs in the drive, there's only
one icon there for the hard drive. Pressing arrow keys there with
only one icon present will give you no output, since you haven't
moved anywhere.
Most of what you're used to will work (tab, arrows, etc) though
they
don't always work the way you'd expect from a Windows perspective.
hth
On Apr 22, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Sara wrote:
I don't think I've ever used the keyboard learn mode with Jaws or
Window-Eyes.
I think the only reason I'd use it with a mac is because I can't
seem to just press the arrow keys to navigate around. Somebody
please correct me if I am understanding this wrong, but from
what I
have read so far, arrow keys get a blind person nowhere. How do
people edit text in a word processor? Do you need to use control
option with all arrow keys all the time? I know you can lock them
and that would help but just want to clarify. What about with the
numpad? Can those keys be used instead of control option arrows to
move around and have text read? I think I am missing something.
It's
probably a lot easier than it sounds. smile Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Truong"
<bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
Hi Sara,
Trust me, it was the first command I drummed into my head. You
got
to love keyboard learn mode on any screen reader. It is a
godsend.
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sara
Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 4:31 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
Thanks people! Sounds like a command I'll be using a lot
tomorrow.
lol
Sara
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman"
<david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
vo keys-k turns on keyboard help and what's really cool about it
is that it even tells you what all the keys do, not just vo
keys.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Reedy"
<WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:20 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Learning the keyboard.
Learning the Keyboard can be done with out interfearing with
your
work.
Pressing VO keys-k will cause Voiceover to speak the name of
each
key and if you press a combination of keys, Voiceover will tell
you what that combination of keys will do.
Press escape to stop this function.
Keith Reedy
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