[macvoiceover] Re: Edit fields was Re: Learning the keyboard.
- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:34:35 -0400
this is fixed behaviour since the cursor is never on a character but between
characters when it is at rest, changing direction will repeat the character
on the way back. Note, it is helpful in that it is a more precise way of
measuring your position with respect to a character. This is not voice over
behavior but voiceover reflecting the behavior of the user interface.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Edit fields was Re: Learning the keyboard.
HI,
Talking about edit fields, how do you set voiceover up so it doesn't repeat
the same character you have just left? For example, I will be moving across
a document in a text editor under leopard with my right and left arrow keys,
voiceover will read d a v I d as I am moving the right arrow key. That's
fine but when I move the left arrow back, it will read d even though really
I am on the I and when I move the right arrow to land on d, it will read i.
It does this through a line of text so after a while you kind've loose where
you are. This was especially annoying when I had to enter serial numbers
for my audio hijack pro and recently VmWare Fusion. Please don't tell me
that I have to gain more experience with the Mac and it is something I will
learn to get use to smile. There must be a fix.
Thanks in advance for any help on the above,
David Truong
EMail and Messenger:
davidtruong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Skype: blindboxer1967
-----Original Message-----
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jacob Schmude
Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 7:12 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
Hi
Actually, arrows move you around in a wordprocessor just fine, along
with lists, and just about anywhere else you could use them in
windows. What might be happening to you is that the arrow keys you're
pressing simply aren't moving you anywhere, either because you're not
in a place you can use them or because there's no items for them to
move you to. An example of this would be on the desktop, if you don't
have any other drives plugged in or CDs in the drive, there's only one
icon there for the hard drive. Pressing arrow keys there with only one
icon present will give you no output, since you haven't moved anywhere.
Most of what you're used to will work (tab, arrows, etc) though they
don't always work the way you'd expect from a Windows perspective.
hth
On Apr 22, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Sara wrote:
> I don't think I've ever used the keyboard learn mode with Jaws or
> Window-Eyes.
> I think the only reason I'd use it with a mac is because I can't
> seem to just press the arrow keys to navigate around. Somebody
> please correct me if I am understanding this wrong, but from what I
> have read so far, arrow keys get a blind person nowhere. How do
> people edit text in a word processor? Do you need to use control
> option with all arrow keys all the time? I know you can lock them
> and that would help but just want to clarify. What about with the
> numpad? Can those keys be used instead of control option arrows to
> move around and have text read? I think I am missing something. It's
> probably a lot easier than it sounds. smile
> Sara
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Truong" <bnfiles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:50 PM
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
>
>
>> Hi Sara,
>>
>> Trust me, it was the first command I drummed into my head. You got
>> to love
>> keyboard learn mode on any screen reader. It is a godsend.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sara
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 4:31 AM
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
>>
>> Thanks people! Sounds like a command I'll be using a lot tomorrow.
>> lol
>> Sara
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman"
<david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 1:23 PM
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Learning the keyboard.
>>
>>
>>> vo keys-k turns on keyboard help and what's really cool about it
>>> is that
>>> it
>>> even tells you what all the keys do, not just vo keys.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Reedy" <WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:20 PM
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Learning the keyboard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Learning the Keyboard can be done with out interfearing with your
>>> work.
>>>
>>> Pressing VO keys-k will cause Voiceover to speak the name of each
>>> key
>>> and if you press a combination of keys, Voiceover will tell you what
>>> that combination of keys will do.
>>>
>>> Press escape to stop this function.
>>>
>>> Keith Reedy
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