[mac4theblind] Re: New member thinking of getting a Mac mini with Lion Server 2.0GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 -
- From: "Kliphton.A.M" <kliphton@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 08:22:45 -0600
It won't take you six months to learn the mac. It took me 6 days to get a feel
for it. And I am still making progress more each day. I am not by far an
exbert, but know what I'm doing. I can't atest to anything less than 16 gigs
of ram, cause that's all I have ever had. On my 2011 iMac, and now on my 2012
Mac mini. Like Ed said, it depends on your needs. If you are just doing
email, internet, writing documents, and playing around with garageband, then 4
gigs should do it. But based on the way companies like apple upgrade there OS
and software, I'd go for the 8 gigs. I plan on doing a lot more with my system
in the future, so I got the 2TB system, and replaced it with to SSD's, and have
16 gigs of ram as stated above, configured with the I7 quad core processor.
One thing I want to mention about switching from good old windows, to the mac.
Forget everything you know about windows, treat it as if you never used a
computer before. That is one of the ways you will catch on fast. If you try
to use voice over like jaws, or safari like internet explorer or fire fox. You
won't get very far. Just speaking from experience. Good luck, and welcome to
the list!
Kliphton A M
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On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Craig <facecraig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for all of the responses and many thanks for the warm welcomes!!!
Well it looks like the starting point is whether or not to upgrade the
processor.
I am thinking that if the 2.5GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor is
sufficient for everyday computing task (email, internet and maybe some document
drafting), along with listening to music, I may just update the RAM to 8 GB.
If I were to get the one that starts with the 2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7,
for cost purposes I would not be upgrading the RAM so with that one I will have
4GB RAM.
I am taking in to account that I will be using it primarily to learn a Mac with
in the first 6-12 months. The only production program I may use is garage band
but probably not as heavily as I use music production tools in windows.
On 1/20/2013 4:26 AM, Edward Redfern wrote:
>
> with reference to lion server.
>
> OS X mountain lion is installed by default with the Mountain lion server
> PLUGIN mounted. this will, by apple be configured as a standard mode but on
> first launch of the server app, will ask if you want to create workgroups,
> etc. you don't have to use the server portion.
>
> with reference to the mac itself, because apple make systems that are now
> impossible for an end user to upgrade and this is now confirmed by apple
> through the new iMac, macbook air, macbook pro retina models, etc, you must
> order your machine with a spec you know you're going to need, otherwise
> you're stuffed, because the ram is built to the logic board as soldered
> components and not user replaceable.
>
> the server edition mac mini is a good solution if you want dual drives for
> storage, my best advice is to maximise the performance of the mac mini by cpu
> upgrade on the apple store, ram upgrade etc and go from there.
>
> lew
>
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> On 20 Jan 2013, at 04:43, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Welcome to the list.
>>
>> Unless you have specific reasons for it or a particular need, I don't
>> know why you would opt for Lion Server. VoiceOver is compatible, but I
>> would think you'd want the standard OS. Again, unless you have the need and
>> desire for a server.
>>
>> Secondly, the question about the need for a monitor is a controversial
>> one. Some will claim you don't need a monitor, while others will tell you
>> that you do need one. From my personal experience with a July 2011 Mac
>> Mini, I needed to trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor for it to
>> work properly. Without one, I had several issues that made it difficult to
>> use.
>>
>> Lastly, again, there might be debate about this, but 8 GB of RAM is
>> better than 4. I have noticed a big difference in my most
>> recent systems going from 4 to 8 GB of RAM in them.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>
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>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:17 PM, Craig <facecraig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am new to the list.
>>>
>>> I am a windows and Jaws user. I am considering getting a Mac computer to
>>> learn the Apple OS and possibly making the switch.
>>>
>>> I have iOS devices.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am looking at the Mac mini with Lion Server 2.0GHz quad-core Intel Core
>>> i7.
>>>
>>> I was considering getting that computer and using my TV as a monitor. But,
>>> do I have to use that computer with a monitor? Would
>>> Voiceover still work even if I do not have a monitor connected?
>>>
>>> What about the differences between Lion Server and regular Mountain Lion as
>>> it relates to voiceover stability? Is one preferred over the other?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am only considering Lion Server because I could get a good deal with the
>>> Mac mini running that OS.
>>>
>>> For faster and optimum performance, is there a big difference between 4 or
>>> 8 gigs of ram?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I hope I did not bombard the list with too many elementary questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
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