with reference to lion server. OS X mountain lion is installed by default with the Mountain lion server PLUGIN mounted. this will, by apple be configured as a standard mode but on first launch of the server app, will ask if you want to create workgroups, etc. you don't have to use the server portion. with reference to the mac itself, because apple make systems that are now impossible for an end user to upgrade and this is now confirmed by apple through the new iMac, macbook air, macbook pro retina models, etc, you must order your machine with a spec you know you're going to need, otherwise you're stuffed, because the ram is built to the logic board as soldered components and not user replaceable. the server edition mac mini is a good solution if you want dual drives for storage, my best advice is to maximise the performance of the mac mini by cpu upgrade on the apple store, ram upgrade etc and go from there. lew Edward Redfern Vintage Mower Restorer. E-Mail: Edwardredfern@xxxxxxx Twitter: redfernmowers Website: http://redfernvintagemowers.wordpress.com Breathing life back in to old equipment, one day at a time. Want to recycle your old lawnmower and make a difference? Get in touch for more information. On 20 Jan 2013, at 04:43, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Welcome to the list. > > Unless you have specific reasons for it or a particular need, I don't > know why you would opt for Lion Server. VoiceOver is compatible, but I would > think you'd want the standard OS. Again, unless you have the need and desire > for a server. > > Secondly, the question about the need for a monitor is a controversial > one. Some will claim you don't need a monitor, while others will tell you > that you do need one. From my personal experience with a July 2011 Mac Mini, > I needed to trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor for it to work > properly. Without one, I had several issues that made it difficult to use. > > Lastly, again, there might be debate about this, but 8 GB of RAM is > better than 4. I have noticed a big difference in my most recent systems > going from 4 to 8 GB of RAM in them. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Jan 19, 2013, at 11:17 PM, Craig <facecraig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I am new to the list. >> >> I am a windows and Jaws user. I am considering getting a Mac computer to >> learn the Apple OS and possibly making the switch. >> >> I have iOS devices. >> >> >> >> I am looking at the Mac mini with Lion Server 2.0GHz quad-core Intel Core >> i7. >> >> I was considering getting that computer and using my TV as a monitor. But, >> do I have to use that computer with a monitor? Would Voiceover still work >> even if I do not have a monitor connected? >> >> What about the differences between Lion Server and regular Mountain Lion as >> it relates to voiceover stability? Is one preferred over the other? >> >> >> >> I am only considering Lion Server because I could get a good deal with the >> Mac mini running that OS. >> >> For faster and optimum performance, is there a big difference between 4 or 8 >> gigs of ram? >> >> >> >> >> >> Well I hope I did not bombard the list with too many elementary questions. >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >