-----Original Message----- From: Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Oct 27, 2004 5:40 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: flu vaccine >A.A. Childhood vaccinations have made the biggest difference in irradicati= n=3D >g polio, measles, and the like. Those are mandated. They've been so succ= e=3D >ssful in fact and diseases so minimized that government has to step in and= =3D >remind parents to have their children vaccinated. These were public healt= h=3D > initiatives, not marketing successes. =3D20 But the pharmaceutical companies -- for whom 5 million dollars is lunch=20 money -- surely don't give one shit about the public health initiative. If= =20 it was, they would cure diseases, rather than maintain them. A.A. Vaccinations were a big deal when diseases were rampant and people wer= e getting Nobel prizes for discovering cures. Pharmaceutical companies tod= ay care about Viagra, statin drugs (which are also heavily peddled) and oth= er drugs that people take on a regular basis that cost money, not a measly = $7 once a year. I heard a discussion on hormones for women and why they we= re pushed so vigorously for so many years. Without going into a long story= , basically no one owns the patent on hormones, plus they are dirt cheap to= produce (like aspirin) but manufacturers can charge a lot of money for the= m. Hormones are pure profit the way, say, if aspirin were patented and you= had to pay $80 for a month's supply. In the 60's the pharmaceutical compa= nies hired a doctor to write a book on how hormones can create eternal yout= h. Who doesn't want eternal youth? The book sold and the idea became entr= enched. Decades later it's discovered that hormones past menopause not onl= y do nothing at all, they actually correlate with increased risk of heart d= isease and cancer. So, to answer your question, yes, these companies were = creating and maintaining disease. >P.S. 3) A snafu in one of the providers has now greatly decreased the over= a=3D >ll supply AND screwed up the already in progress delegation of that supply > > >A.A. Suppliers are not easy to find because this is a product that makes a= =3D >marginal amount of money for the manufacturer. It's a nuisance for them. A nuisance? What about public health initiatives? A.A. See above. I refer you also to Judy's point that only two suppliers w= ere to be found this year. Don't twist their arm, and the pharmaceutical c= ompanies will do nothing. >A.A. Five million dollars is lunch money. It's a meaningless amount of mo= n=3D >ey to the pharmaceutical industry. Even so, they will point to it and mak= e=3D > a big deal out of it if they need an excuse to give up public health ori= en=3D >ted production. Man. I LOVE your idea of lunch. A.A. This is a very high profit business. Even the way they claim they dev= elop their drugs is a myth they perpetrate. That's another discussion I he= ard but I can't remember enough details at the moment. > > >A.A. This sounds like you still support the invasion. "STILL"? when did I EVER say that I supported the invasion? A.A. Just an assumption I made, plus a while back you said Kerry was lame = or something. =20 Andy p ****************** Paul Stone pas@xxxxxxxx Leamington, ON ******************=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html