[lit-ideas] Re: flu vaccine

  • From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:06:20 -0700 (PDT)

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From: Paul Stone <pas@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Oct 27, 2004 5:40 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: flu vaccine



>A.A. Childhood vaccinations have made the biggest difference in irradicati=
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>g polio, measles, and the like.  Those are mandated.  They've been so succ=
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>ssful in fact and diseases so minimized that government has to step in and=
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>remind parents to have their children vaccinated.  These were public healt=
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>  initiatives, not marketing successes. =3D20

But the pharmaceutical companies -- for whom 5 million dollars is lunch=20
money -- surely don't give one shit about the public health initiative. If=
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it was, they would cure diseases, rather than maintain them.



A.A. Vaccinations were a big deal when diseases were rampant and people wer=
e getting Nobel prizes for discovering cures.  Pharmaceutical companies tod=
ay care about Viagra, statin drugs (which are also heavily peddled) and oth=
er drugs that people take on a regular basis that cost money, not a measly =
$7 once a year.  I heard a discussion on hormones for women and why they we=
re pushed so vigorously for so many years.  Without going into a long story=
, basically no one owns the patent on hormones, plus they are dirt cheap to=
 produce (like aspirin) but manufacturers can charge a lot of money for the=
m.  Hormones are pure profit the way, say, if aspirin were patented and you=
 had to pay $80 for a month's supply.  In the 60's the pharmaceutical compa=
nies hired a doctor to write a book on how hormones can create eternal yout=
h.  Who doesn't want eternal youth?  The book sold and the idea became entr=
enched.  Decades later it's discovered that hormones past menopause not onl=
y do nothing at all, they actually correlate with increased risk of heart d=
isease and cancer.  So, to answer your question, yes, these companies were =
creating and maintaining disease.




>P.S. 3) A snafu in one of the providers has now greatly decreased the over=
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>ll supply AND screwed up the already in progress delegation of that supply
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>A.A. Suppliers are not easy to find because this is a product that makes a=
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>marginal amount of money for the manufacturer.  It's a nuisance for them.

A nuisance? What about public health initiatives?



A.A. See above.  I refer you also to Judy's point that only two suppliers w=
ere to be found this year.  Don't twist their arm, and the pharmaceutical c=
ompanies will do nothing.




>A.A. Five million dollars is lunch money.  It's a meaningless amount of mo=
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>ey to the pharmaceutical industry.  Even so, they will point to it and mak=
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>  a big deal out of it if they need an excuse to give up public health ori=
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>ted production.

Man. I LOVE your idea of lunch.


A.A. This is a very high profit business.  Even the way they claim they dev=
elop their drugs is a myth they perpetrate.  That's another discussion I he=
ard but I can't remember enough details at the moment.



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>A.A.  This sounds like you still support the invasion.

"STILL"? when did I EVER say that I supported the invasion?


A.A.  Just an assumption I made, plus a while back you said Kerry was lame =
or something. =20


Andy



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