[lit-ideas] Re: The Rise & Fall of Somalia's Islamic Courts: An Online History (The Fourth Rail)

  • From: Andy Amago <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 01:07:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

If only today counts, why study history?   Certainly not to learn anything useful from it, not to see how it repeats itself.  You must be going on the premise that there's only one side to every story, and you're right, to the extent that history is written by the victor.  Had the English won, we'd be terrorists.  Since we won, we're the glorious freedom fighters.  Robert Kagan (brother of the Kagan that's pushing the surge) argues in his book Dangerous Nation that far from being isolationist, the U.S. has always been an aggressive expansionist nation, right from our very foundation.  We've been on a messianic crusade from the beginning to remake the world in our image.  Don't look at me, read the book.  Also, we may have supported Saddam because he was the lesser of two evils, since our isolationist selves had installed a puppet government in Iran and the Iranians objected, but we still supported Saddam as long as he served us.  As soon as he didn't serve, our isolationist selves got rid of him. 
 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Helm
Sent: Jan 6, 2007 4:37 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Rise & Fall of Somalia's Islamic Courts: An Online History (The Fourth Rail)

Irene:  Your note asked, “Lawrence, where would you put the insurgents/terrorists of England's colonies in America?  Would you brand them as traitors to England or freedom fighters?  The greatest military force the world had seen to that time was sent to quell the insurrection.  Any comment on that?”

 

I responded and at considerable length answered every legitimate aspect of your questions.  But I see you aren’t happy.  You blithely want me to engage in anachronistic invention or speculation about an earlier period.    I addressed what the Colonists thought of themselves and what the British thought of the Colonists and what the Colonists thought of the British.  One of the worst crimes an historian can commit is to apply modern standards or ideas to an earlier period.  While I am not myself an historian, I read a lot of history and have no wish to engage in anachronism.

 

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