Way, way, way off, Andreas. We weren't talking about Iraq. We were talking about some people who said Eric was just as bad as the Terrorists because he wanted to kill them before they killed him. So you too have failed to provide an argument for Eric's beliefs and/or actions being morally equivalent to Terrorists beliefs and/or actions. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Ramos Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:53 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Rise & Fall of Somalia's Islamic Courts: An Online History (The Fourth Rail) > I returned to the moral equivalence idea. How can we frame it logically, if > we assume there is no difference between what the terrorist does and what > the defender against a terrorist does? Straw man argument. The problem in Iraq isn't terrorists. The war in Iraq is a sectarian civil war between a number of militias. Lawrence is ignoring reality and talking about hypothetical situations. yrs, andreas www.andreas.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html