As an American citizen I can deplore Chirac's misdeeds, if he's guilty of any, just as I could, years ago, deplore Idi Amin's brutality. But deploring something in this fashion only counts in the rhetoric of tu quoque. 'If you condemn Bush, what about Chirac?' I'm sure it wasn't Eric's intention to engage in such rhetoric. I wasn't using rhetoric to insist that there was a balance, as though I were a Republican, but rather to encourage discussion of the scandal in question (see my original post) and to argue that oil money spreads corruption throughout the industrialized world so that no country can be said to hold the high ground or be free of its taint. And that therefore the problem that Bush represents will not be solved by merely removing Bush. It is international in scope and must be treated as an international problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html