[lit-ideas] Re: Malt, Coffee & Chuck Taylor

  • From: JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx
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  • Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 01:31:49 EDT

I'd like to see a conference of Aristotelian philosophers and  
astrophysicists.
 
Julie Krueger
never ignoring ontology

========Original  Message========     Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: Malt, Coffee & 
Chuck Taylor  Date: 6/17/06 2:22:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time  From: 
_wokshevs@xxxxxxx (mailto:wokshevs@xxxxxx)   To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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What can I say? I'm originally a street kid from  Montreal. Learnt phronesis 
in
the alleys of Outremont. 

"Tennis is  difficult." A statement that is both true and false? Or: "True to
some  extent"? (Gimme a break. Truth, along with logical validity, is  like
pregnancy: no such thing as being "just a little bit pregnant.") Where  are 
the
Aristotelian philosophers when you need them?

Walter C.  Okshevsky
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Rationality
European  Court of Human Epistemology
Brussels

Quoting Mike Geary  <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Now see what you've done, Walter?   You knew how these guys are and yet you 
> went and started it  anyway.
> 
> Mike Geary
> transcending Memphis every moment I  can.
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To:  <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:40  AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Malt, Coffee & Chuck Taylor
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> >
> >
> > --- wokshevs@xxxxxx  wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> P.S. I don't  think that ideas can be valid or
> >> invalid. Validity is logically  a
> >> property of inference (and sometimes of bus
> >>  transfers). Inference is possible
> >> only from one or more  statements to another
> >> statement understood as a
>  >> conclusion.
> >
> > * In formal logic, "valid" is  used sometimes to denote
> > a property of arguments, sometimes of  conclusions. In
> > the ordinary language, we frequently talk also  about
> > valid points, valid assumptions, valid objections,
>  > valid beliefs, and valid ideas. Insisting that the
> > word can be  used only in one sense seems pedantic.
> >
> >
>  >> Truth is a possible property of statements or
> >>  propositions. A statement can be
> >> either true or false but not  both.
> >
> > * I'm not sure. Let's take something every-day  like:
> > "Sky is blue." Or, "Dogs are cute." Or, "Travelling  by
> > bus is frustrating." Or, "Tennis is difficult." Are
> >  these statements simply true, or simply false ? Should
> > we really  expect a rigorous examination of these
> > statements to expose them as  either true or false, or
> > should we expect to find something closer  to what most
> > college sophomores think, that they are true to  some
> > extent but not absolutely ?
> >
> >  O.K.
> >
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