[lit-ideas] Re: Malt, Coffee & Chuck Taylor

  • From: wokshevs@xxxxxx
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 16:51:40 -0230

What can I say? I'm originally a street kid from Montreal. Learnt phronesis in
the alleys of Outremont. 

"Tennis is difficult." A statement that is both true and false? Or: "True to
some extent"? (Gimme a break. Truth, along with logical validity, is like
pregnancy: no such thing as being "just a little bit pregnant.") Where are the
Aristotelian philosophers when you need them?

Walter C. Okshevsky
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Rationality
European Court of Human Epistemology
Brussels

Quoting Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Now see what you've done, Walter?  You knew how these guys are and yet you 
> went and started it anyway.
> 
> Mike Geary
> transcending Memphis every moment I can.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Omar Kusturica" <omarkusto@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:40 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Malt, Coffee & Chuck Taylor
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- wokshevs@xxxxxx wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> P.S. I don't think that ideas can be valid or
> >> invalid. Validity is logically a
> >> property of inference (and sometimes of bus
> >> transfers). Inference is possible
> >> only from one or more statements to another
> >> statement understood as a
> >> conclusion.
> >
> > * In formal logic, "valid" is used sometimes to denote
> > a property of arguments, sometimes of conclusions. In
> > the ordinary language, we frequently talk also about
> > valid points, valid assumptions, valid objections,
> > valid beliefs, and valid ideas. Insisting that the
> > word can be used only in one sense seems pedantic.
> >
> >
> >> Truth is a possible property of statements or
> >> propositions. A statement can be
> >> either true or false but not both.
> >
> > * I'm not sure. Let's take something every-day like:
> > "Sky is blue." Or, "Dogs are cute." Or, "Travelling by
> > bus is frustrating." Or, "Tennis is difficult." Are
> > these statements simply true, or simply false ? Should
> > we really expect a rigorous examination of these
> > statements to expose them as either true or false, or
> > should we expect to find something closer to what most
> > college sophomores think, that they are true to some
> > extent but not absolutely ?
> >
> > O.K.
> >
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