In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:40:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Once we shut the door to Predation, we come home to ourselves by accepting our Gravity, which includes our obesity, and we achieve contentment. Pray tell how one achieves obesity without Predation? And assuming extraterrestrials force-fed you nutrients that didn't involve death on this planet, your merely "shutting the door" kills countless beastly animalcules, as Leewenhoek called them. Predation, alas! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html