Friday, May 13, 2005, 2:07:25 AM, Robert Paul wrote: RP> Judy Evans wrote: >> Friday, May 13, 2005, 12:23:06 AM, Robert Paul wrote: >> >> RP> Judy Evans wrote: >>>>RP> Just what you'd expect a Canadian to say. However, scrap paper, although >>>>RP> it can be jotted on (q.v.) is paper meant for scrap. >>>>No it is not! It is scrap paper! RP> Then she wrote: >> RP> I'm not sure how this gets us any forwarder. >> I also think this gets us forwarder. RP> Let us retrace this argument. One may sketch it thus: RP> A: Scrap paper is meant for scrap. RP> B: No, it isn't. It is scrap paper! RP> Now, an impartial observer, C, might think that B had merely repeated, RP> with emphasis, what A had initially said, without explaining the meaning RP> of 'scrap paper.' That a thing is identical with itself is perhaps news RP> in Wales, but I suspect that deeper issues are lurking here. Possibly in Scrap paper is paper that can be jotted on, not paper that is intended for scrap. http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/tests/mathstest.htm http://www.wasteonline.org.uk/resources/InformationSheets/Paper.htm *waste* paper may be made into scrap, "scrap" paper used for jotting on during that process: http://www.ecoaction.richmond.gov.uk/paper.htm "Scrap" paper is not acceptable in all examinations -- see below -- but not because it is intended only for scrap: http://www.lnat.ac.uk/faqs.html computer printout paper "will be reused either for computer printing or as scrap paper for notes, drafts etc. The Company recycles its **waste** paper," (** mine) http://www.hydro-logic.co.uk/BB_environmentalPolicy.php "scrap" paper may be used in fax machines and for printing internal memos etc.: http://www.recyclenow.com/at_work/scale_down_the.html I think these pages (consecutive top hits for "scrap paper" +UK) serve to make the point that in the UK (and, it seems, Canada) "scrap paper" normally means what "scratch paper" means in the US. Some people here do, it seems, now say "scratch paper", I suspect by analogy with "scratch pad", as in online and other software scratch pads. -- mailto:judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html