[lit-ideas] Re: Dark Thoughts on Iraq

Friday, September 30, 2005, 2:43:47 AM, Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx wrote:


JE> .     But I don't want to see an
JE> old-style isolationist  US. 
 
 
Eac> Hi, Judy...
 
Eac>  
 
Eac> Would you explain why you would not?

by "old-style isolationist  US" I mean the isolationism of the
Thirties.  It's easiest to quote:

>Hitler came to power in January of 1933, the Second Great War began in
>1939, and America didn?t join the war until December of 1941

perhaps that explains why I would not.


 
Eac> Since we are so disliked everywhere, in some respects <g>,
Eac> I often  think that would be not so bad...

alternatively you could look -- as of course many in the US do -- at
why "you" are "so disliked everywhere, in some respects", if, that is,
that is indeed correct.

(You have probably not seen a full list of countries who offered aif
after Katrina.  Or perhaps that does not count.)


Eac> I mean--we'd not be the so-called saviors any longer;


I don't know who calls you saviours


Eac> we'd
Eac> be focusing on  our own problems and taking care of our own
Eac> people;

I certainly hope so.  You could start by protesting against cuts in
Medicaid to pay for Katrina aid relief.


Eac> we'd let Others be grown-ups  in their own countries
  Eac> and
Eac> [hopefully] their own personal actions would be such  that they
Eac> would move towards collective personal growth and development in
Eac> a  healthy way without our meddling interference;

we think we do reasonably well right now, Marlena


Eac> we'd get
Eac> control, again, of our  so-called global corporate world which is
Eac> draining the world dry and hurting the  Earth;

you mean you could control your corporations better if they were
confined to the US? (now there's a millennial dream!)


Eac>  we could create
Eac> that Wall so that the bright smart creative illegal  immigrants
Eac> would have to begin True Reform in their Own Nation of Mexico (or
Eac> wherever--

this is satire, right?


Eac> okay, kind of tough love, but hey...we're talking
Eac> long-term health  here of those they love and currently send
Eac> money home to assist...)


like the Irish and the Italians? perhaps you should send them home



Eac> ; Europe  would become who it was born to
Eac> be

I don't know what it was born to be or what you think it's like right
now


Eac> [and that we long to visit

OK, you haven't been here

Eac> and, of course,  there would still
Eac> be *some* visiting going on...]

by you, yes.  Whether we would be allowed into the US is I suppose to
be decided.


Eac> ; etc etc.

quite

 
Eac> There is, as you all know, the part of me which IS an
Eac> isolationist.   and, since I cannot fix everything (yet <g>), I'd
Eac> sometimes like to scale  down so that we can fix what needs to be
Eac> fixed...feed those in our own  neighborhoods, etc.

which would be a damn good idea.
 
Eac>  
 
Eac> and, besides. I'm tired of hearing how horrible Americans
Eac> are...

so who are all these people who keep telling you how horrible
Americans are?



Eac> the  personality type of me that is not the puzzled 'why
Eac> don't they like me' says to  just hole up and run away.  Harden
Eac> the heart and shift the shoulder and  focus on those who are my
Eac> own...

like you did till Pearl Harbor.
 

 
Eac> isn't that the way of Confucius?  To take care of 'the 
Eac> family' only?  


doesn't sound much like it to me

Eac>  (Granted, part of me says get rid of the federal 
Eac> government and just be nation-states as states, too...okay,
Eac> counties.   Okay--we want separate from Kansas City. Eastern
Eac> parts of counties separate from  Western. Or maybe just feudal
Eac> cities again...)


yes well, I'm an internationalist.
 

 




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