[lit-ideas] Re: Bush taking apart SS

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:31:54 -0400

Brian, anyone who thinks talking about China's economy is red baiting is
clueless.  The same about SS.  You want to get rid of that which you don't
understand.  Pulling raw statistics off the internet means nothing.  There
may be thousands living on 401k's, but there are millions of retired. 
Unless you can offer facts instead of right wing Cold War pablum, there's
no point in continuing.  


Andy Amago 


> [Original Message]
> From: Brian <cabrian@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 5/10/2005 10:06:42 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Bush taking apart SS
>
> Andy,
>
> 1. I never said SS is in crisis.
> 2. I posted a congressional budget office report of effective federal  
> tax rates that showed the 80/20 fact and refuted your claim.
> 3. I don't expect you to agree that SS is a bad idea philosophically  
> and should be terminated.
>
> Do you oppose a hypothetical addendum so SS that would allow people  
> to voluntarily leave the system?  I hope your message of the 401k  
> myth gets out to the thousands of people now living off them.
>
> Brian
>
> On May 10, 2005, at 7:47 AM, Andy Amago wrote:
>
> > Brian, your posts are based on guesswork.  Your facts are nonexistent.
> > Social Security is not in crisis and has never been in crisis.  You  
> > most
> > likely don't know that in 1985 Bush said SS would be bankrupt by 1989.
> > The 401k is a myth, invented by a business climate that didn't want to
> > offer retirement benefits.  You talk about logical fallacies, how  
> > about we
> > forget the logic and get our facts straight.
> >
> > http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17771
> >
> > Andy Amago
> >
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