[lit-ideas] Re: Big Pharma's competition
- From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:55:56 -0400
> [Original Message]
> From: <Eternitytime1@xxxxxxx>
> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 5/7/2005 2:29:40 AM
> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Big Pharma's competition
>
>
> In a message dated 5/6/2005 11:23:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
> aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Wow, there's no end to their stupidity. Just a question, when you talk
to
> these people, do they drool?
>
>
> Hi,
> No. And, they are not stupid, either. Most of them are very very smart.
>
> Very smart.
>
A.A. Not smart enough to know that Bush is taking apart their Social
Security while handing out breaks to the ultra wealthy.
> But, like so many of us, they look at only one side of an issue. They
> generally (like many people on either side of an issue) are not able to
articulate
> the issue well enough to be able to share its strengths and
weaknesses/pros
> and cons of an outcome.
>
A.A. There's not a whole lot to articulate with dismantling Social
Security, yet still they don't see Bush's involvement even in that
> For example, someone who does not like Big Pharma, ought (in my opinion)
to
> be able to very very well articulate the pros of Big Pharma as well as
its
> cons. The people who have absolutely no problem with Big Pharma and who
can
> see only its pros ought to be able to well articulate the cons, too.
But, most
> people cannot do that. Many of them simply choose not to do so but many
of
> them have no idea as to how to do that--and many of them think that if
they
> even come close to doing that -- well, it will mean that, in some way,
they
> are condoning the other side.
>
A.A. Most people don't see anything at all, except maybe the religious who
know God loves them, and that's all.
> Even wondering if a person drools smacks (to me) of dis-respect and makes
me
> wonder if you been aware of the 'good' in these folks. There is
> much--especially if you value taking care of kids (one's one, but
also--many of them
> are very involved in volunteer activities which help the elderly, help
the
> disabled [esp kids going to camps], help with school/PTA activities [and
do not
> sell that sort of activity short--it is in dire need--for much of what
happens
> that is of the 'added value' happens because of a PTA which has active
> parents in it...] The fellow from the NYTImes editorial board (I think
that was
> where he is from) who wrote one of the few books tracking the trends and
> beliefs of the 'regular person' as he traveled the area, is able to
articulate
> pretty well that these are people who, in many respects, care very deeply
for
> People...
A.A. The issue isn't good; even Hitler liked dogs, etc. The issue is
they're cemented in stone to their religious beliefs. They don't realize
that taking evolution out of the schools will have us sleeping in tents
along with the real Ayatollahs. They and their friend Bush are turning
this country into a backwater. Instead of using meaningless words like
good and bad, let's try shortsighted and religiously fanatical, to where
even the environment doesn't count since they're all being raptured one
day.
>
> I may not agree with their points of view--but I do in some arenas of
life.
> Still, even for the beliefs of which I do not agree, it is very very
hard no
> matter where I would be to not assimiliate those points of view.
A.A. It's clear that you're one of the religious right. Unless you think
G-d doesn't like publicity, so that's why he can't have his full name
spelled out.
Perhaps
> that is one reason why I look at every angle for all aspects as much as
I can.
> (my child is having a hard time right now--I think we have hit a new
phase
> of development, though, in which he sees too many people who he respects
and
> honors in certain arenas of life who hold very different
political/religious
> views than what I do.
A.A. Letting kids make up their own minds is scary stuff.
(fortunately, he does know the few that are scattered
> in our world--but frankly, many of them do NOT live in this area and
those
> that I know with my belief system who live elsewhere do the disparaging
of
> those who hold different viewpoints even more caustically than those who
live
> here and who make you wonder if they 'drool'. They do not have much
tolerance
> for the moderately conservative--those are lumped into the same category
as
> the rest of them. THEY do not disparage you. I cannot let my child
meet
> those of that 'do they drool' persuasion because, for me, respect is
extremely
> important and trumps political/religious viewpoints.)
A.A. I'm getting from this paragraph that people where you live are
pretty bigoted. That's a characteristic of the red states. Religious
people tend to be suspicious and unaccepting of outsiders.
I do understand the
> frustration level--and have my own theories as to why there is such a
> disrespect for Others--so it helps me not get frustrated with what are
almost as mean
> comments as some that side has been known to make...<sigh>
A.A. Disrespect for others and religion go hand in hand. *Every* religion
is convinced they're right and everyone else is wrong. Can't respect
people who are wrong, can we. Can feel sorry for them that they're not
being raptured, etc., but certainly can't respect them.
Andy Amago
>
> Wishing for tolerance for all,
> Marlena in Missouri
>
>
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