-----Original Message----- From: John McCreery <mccreery@xxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 29, 2004 11:46 PM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Alternative food sources On 2004/08/30, at 12:39, JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx wrote: > I think the vat-grown is too unnatural, too close to soylent green, too > suspicious (how do I *know* what it is that I'm eating??). It would > certainly > creep me out. It's too close to the laboratory (neither the wild nor > home) for me. For an alternative view, I recall one of the characters in Bruce Sterling's science fiction novel _Islands in the Net_, who refuses to eat anything but chemically reconstituted petroleum. He argues that all natural foods have evolved over millions of years to be poisonous to predators--how could you possibly take the risk of eating that stuff. A.A. While "poisonous" might a bit strong, there is science behind this statement, even though the character in this novel has it backwards. His statement that natural foods have evolved over millions of years to be poisonous to predators is the theory as to why plant products are so cancer inhibiting in the body. Plants have, in fact, evolved compounds over millennia to disable predators. So he's right. When the plants are in the body, they inhibit tumors, seen as foreign substances by the body (or so the theory goes). Another theory is that, going now back to the very very beginning of the origins of life, as microscopic animals began to create oxygen, they simultaneously had to find a way to disable it, since oxygen is a highly unstable, damaging element. Hence the simultaneous development of free radical absorbers by plants to protect themselves from this lethal and at the same time necessary atom. Thus plants, when eaten by animals, function as antioxidants (anti oxygens) in the body. So eating plants is the very thing to do to optimize health. Petroleum is a hydrocarbon (strings of carbons and hydrogens). I would imagine if it were chemically reconstituted in a science fiction work it could be a carbohydrate (strings of carbons and hydrogens) or fat (also strings of carbons and hydrogens) and edible. I imagine it would resemble white bread (seriously). Regarding growing animal flesh in vats, I had not heard that. However, agriculture accounts for 50% of all pollution, mostly in the form of fertilizers and pesticides. Fecal matter is a separate problem, as are the E-coli and other infectious bacteria that result from slaughtering animals. Growing flesh in vats could alleviate the first problem, since most agricultural corn and soy is grown for food for livestock, and flesh grown in vats would not create fecal matter. Ironically, meat is among the least nourishing of foodstuffs, since it's mostly protein (fancy nitrogen-containing molecules) with a few B vitamins and a smattering of other things. Plus meat has all the problems associated with toxins being more concentrated at the top of the food chains. For Judy, as the Monsanto commercial says, without chemicals, life itself would be impossible. Chemistry is just the written language of life. Andy Amago John ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html