Just for everyone's info my stupid script was adding blank lines so the number of back translation problems are cut in half. This still leaves 8600+ in en-us-g2.ctb and 10,000+ in the UEB tables. But I wanted to point out it was not quite as bad as it could be. I know before I took a break I had the en-us-g2 down to 800 words with a patch to the tables. I never put it in because a few were not happy with how I solved some of the apostrophe problems. In truth most of the apostrophe problems need to be fixed in code not tables. I think there is a problem with the way the translator is splitting words with apostrophe's but I will prove that before I make a long table patch again. ken From: liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:liblouis-liblouisxml-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 10:36 AM To: liblouis-liblouisxml@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [liblouis-liblouisxml] Back translation issues Ok I have just ran my script to see how things are going with UEB. While I was at it I thought I might just go ahead and see how the US-g2 tables are doing for back translation. This is not an issue if your reading only in braille but if we are using it to read braille file out loud, or if we are using it to back translate for a screen reader there are still a whole lot of problems. I am attaching my words list, and two files called broke.us and broke.ueb. Each of the files have 3 columns. The first one is the word. The second is the back translation and the third is the forward translation before I back translated it. These are all words that do not back translate correctly. Currently it looks like the en-us-g2 table does a bit better with only 17390 errors while the en-ueb-g2 table has 21666 errors. But I would think this would do a lot better. There are other problems like dollar sign back translation in sentences that these files don't catch but I wanted to get the words list out there first. I will start pushing patches to the UEB and maybe to the US English one if I can do that on the git repo. I know we are tracking the UEB ones on the git repo but not sure about the us g2. I figured I would send this as kind of a bug report because no one seems to be working on back translation issues. Ken