Mike, Then it appears to be a problem with the dictionary manager in JAWS 11. Too bad you have to jump through all those hoops to make it work. Using the last revision of JAWS 11 (11.0.1471)? Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Barbara In Arcadia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 13:15 Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Hi Dave; My Log-on is automatic, I don't need to Log-on. I am the only user of this computer & the administrator thig is turned off. I only have 1 account on this computer. My other 2 desktop computers have 2 email identities but, I am the only user account holder on all 3 computers. I don't have any problems with the dictionary manager in J10 or J12. Actually, what I do to alleviate the problem is modify the default dictionary manager in J10, copy that JDF file, & paste into the J11 settings folder. That is my temporary fix. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Farfar Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Mike, The fact that it's inconsistent in saving makes me wonder if it happens differently depending on your logon. DO you log on to that machine with different user accounts, or ever log on without administrative rights? Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Barbara In Arcadia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:06 Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Hi Dave; Yes, I was invoking the control, shift, + D, keystroke for the default dictionary. The changes were not being saved and I had a heck of a time trying to close the dictionary manager. Here is a prime example of the dictionary being tempermental. I am running J11 right now to see if the dictionary manager messes up & it won't. Heck, maybe I finally kicked the damn thing just right! LOL, LOL Hopefully that maybe, this is a good sign of things to come. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Farfar Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Mike, That is truly strange. You were invoking the default dictionary with the Ctrl+Shift+d each time? So in effect, your changes to the default.jdf file were not being saved? Have you looked at the file itself in your user/settings/ENU folder to see if the modification date is indeed changed? It's either a problem with the dictionary manager not making the changes, or that the file is not being saved, and that might point to a problem with admin rights, or the wrong folder location. And FS can't help you with it? Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Barbara In Arcadia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:27 Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Hi Dave; I couldn't add to the default dictionary most of the time. Then all of a sudden it would work properly and then all of a suddenwham, no go! Unfortunately the no go was more often than the go! Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Farfar Carlson To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Mike, You wrote: "...the default dictionary issues I have in all builds even though I could duplicate the problem while in a tandem session or on the phone with tech support." What is this issue? Dave Composed in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Barbara In Arcadia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 10:36 Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Hi Sugar; My issues started from day 1 of the first build/ version of J11. As they updated J11 things seemed to get better but, although the loss of focus doesn't happen quite as often, J11 still loses focus regularly.I have spoken to tech support & written my complaints but, since they can't duplicate the problem they can't or won't help. As I stated earlier this happens on more than 1 computer & more than 1 operting system. I don't use my computer all the heavily so I don't think it's an issue of having to many processes or windows open. 1 other thing about J11 that I have never been able to get answer for is the default dictionary issues I have in all builds even though I could duplicate the problem while in a tandem session or on the phone with tech support. Okay, enough of the rant. LOL Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Sugar To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Mike, I just got jaws 11 about 2 months ago, and nothing upsetting has happend, yet, how long did it take before it started acting up? just curious, if I should go back to jaws 7, where I was very happy thanks sugar 'Lower the noise in your life and you will hear God more clearly.' ~Sugar ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike & Barbara In Arcadia To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 7:11 AM Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Hi Shannon, Dave, & Chris; I have this problem on a regular basis! For , no reason! It will happen just by doing something as simple as clicking on something on the desktop. When I invoke the Jaws key, windows key, + F4 keystroke, then when I try to restart any version of Jaws with its respective hotkey, no version of Jaws will load. I have to do a hard shutdown & reboot before I get Jaws back again. I had this happen while I had Freedom Scientific on the phone for a different reason and they couldn't figure out / explain why it would do this either. I thought, at first, that I would be very happy with J12 but, it seems to be doing the same old crap the J11 did! Losing focus & just quit working while attempting the simplest of tasks'. I have written them & spoken with them, to no avail. Hopefully somehow this activity, or lack of, will get cleared up. Oh, by the way, this is happening on 2 different desktop computers running XPSP3 Home, 1 laptop running XPSP3 Pro, & 1 desktop computer running XPSP3 MediaCenter. Take care. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: chris hallsworth To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 12:39 AM Subject: Re: jaws 12 freezing up Not at all Shanon. Chris H You can contact me in the following ways: E-mail and Facebook: challsworth2@xxxxxxx MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Blog: http://chrishallsworth.klangoblogs.net On 20/11/2010 05:34, Shannon wrote: > Has anyone had a problem with jaws freezing? I mean it locks up and I > have to bring it up again with my hot key. > Shannon -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ Scripting mailing list: http://lists.the-jdh.com/listinfo.cgi/scriptography-the-jdh.com JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. 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