Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service

Lol wish it did, but unfortunately it doesn't. However you can use the
emergency recovery keystroke, windows-insert-f4 (caps-shift-f12 on
laptops), and then reload JAWS. JAWS will load as a service again,
presuming you've told it to do so.
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:45:47 -0700, "golden" <golden789@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> hi Christopher
> 
> does it also work when computer crashes? really wonderful if it does. a
> real 
> nightmare when computer crashes. jaws application ceases to work at all.
> thanks again for sharing.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Boodram" <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> 
> 
> > Christopher, I copied the porting of the e-mail containing that command 
> > and
> > paste it in the first edit field when I open the JAWS properties. Is this
> > feature available with JAWS 7 by the way? I though I should ask since I 
> > use
> > this version.
> > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >
> >
> >> Steve, are you sure you typed:
> >>
> >> net start jfwservice
> >>
> >> and nothing else? The above line must be typed exactly as shown
> >> otherwise you will get that message.
> >> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:50:31 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> >> <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> >> > Hi Chris, I tried that and it didn't work. I am getting a message 
> >> > called
> >> > invalid pathname or something like that. Am I doing something wrong? I
> >> > typed
> >> > in the correct path, but still no luck.
> >> > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> >> > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> >> > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> >> > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:02 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Open the JAWS shortcut properties and in the target field type net
> > start
> >> > > jfwservice and hit enter.
> >> > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:11:09 -0400, "Steve Boodram"
> >> > > <steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> >> > > > Hi, I was having server problems with gmail and had to delete the
> >> > > > contents of my inbox. I lost the message that gave the steps for
> >> > starting
> >> > > > JAWS as a service. Could someone please repost? Thanks.
> >> > > > Phone: 1-868-636-3519
> >> > > > Fax: 1-868-679-1001
> >> > > > Mobile: 1-868-730-8377
> >> > > > e-mail: steve.boodram@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >   From: Don Moore
> >> > > >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >   Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:27 AM
> >> > > >   Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >   Hi,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >       I have been following this thread with great interest and it
> > seems
> >> > > >       that the advantage of starting JAWS as a service instead of 
> >> > > > an
> >> > > >       application is that JAWS loads sooner and, therefore, you get
> > more
> >> > > >       information while booting up your computer and you also get
> > more
> >> > > >       information reported by JAWS when shutting down your 
> >> > > > computer.
> >> > > >       Please correct me if I am wrong.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >       Furthermore, is it correct that starting JAWS automatically
> >> > > >       accomplishes the same thing as replacing the path in the
> > Desktop
> >> > > >       shortcut for JAWS and, if so, does JAWS have to be running
> > from
> >> > the
> >> > > >       System Tray as well to accomplish this?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >       Thanks in advance for enlightening me,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >       Don
> >> > > >     ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >     From: Moti Azrad
> >> > > >     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >     Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:06 AM
> >> > > >     Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a 
> >> > > > Service
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Hi all,
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     I didn't read this thread from the beginning but wish to know:
> >> > > >     What is the plus to use Jaws as a service and not as an
> > application?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Moti
> >> > > >
> >> > > >     Moti Azrad
> >> > > >     Musician & Piano-Tuner
> >> > > >     motia@xxxxxxx
> >> > > >     azrad_moty@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >     motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >     Israel
> >> > > >       ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >       From: Christopher Bartlett
> >> > > >       To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >       Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:20 PM
> >> > > >       Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
> > Service
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >       Is there a way to have JFW come up as a service initially?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >                Christopher Bartlett
> >> > > >
> >> > > >       At 03:50 AM 6/27/2007, you wrote:
> >> > > >       >What I was thinking is this. Say JAWS has crashed, or, like
> > you
> >> > said,
> >> > > >       >someone wanted to use the computer with JAWS turned off.
> > Well, if
> >> > you
> >> > > >       >restart JAWS in the normal way (i.e. from the original
> > shortcut
> >> > or
> >> > > >       >hotkey that the shortcut's assigned to), JAWS will load as 
> >> > > > an
> >> > > >       >application rather than a service. Now, if JAWS runs as an
> >> > application,
> >> > > >       >it will unload during the shutdown service, meaning it won't
> >> > speak
> >> > > >       >through the shutdown process. JAWS will also not speak when
> >> > you're asked
> >> > > >       >for a password to log back into Windows or any other
> >> > Windows-based log
> >> > > >       >on screen, such as the one that displays when you turn your
> >> > computer
> >> > > >       >back on after a standby or hybernation procedure. If JAWS
> > runs as
> >> > a
> >> > > >       >service, however, JAWS will speak, even at the log in 
> >> > > > prompts
> > and
> >> > shut
> >> > > >       >down screen. So this is why I thought this tip would be very
> >> > useful, so
> >> > > >       >that you can restart JAWS manually, and it will still speak
> > the
> >> > above.
> >> > > >       >Hope this clears any confusions you had.
> >> > > >       >On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:12:08 -0700, "Yardbird"
> >> > <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >       >said:
> >> > > >       > > hello.
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > > I'm not quite clear how this works. For one thing, I
> > already
> >> > have Jaws
> >> > > >       > > set
> >> > > >       > > to load on startup (isn't that as a "service?"). So, the
> > only
> >> > time I use
> >> > > >       > > my
> >> > > >       > > shortcut (actually, I tend more often to use control alt 
> >> > > > j
> > and
> >> > not the
> >> > > >       > > icon,
> >> > > >       > > because I don't need Jaws running to find it!). But I
> > don't
> >> > understand
> >> > > >       > > the
> >> > > >       > > point of doing this. I'm missing something, maybe? Again,
> > the
> >> > only time I
> >> > > >       > > start Jaws manually at all is when I've exited it for 
> >> > > > some
> >> > reason, like
> >> > > >       > > that
> >> > > >       > > a sighted friend's been using the computer and preferred
> > it to
> >> > be
> >> > > >       > > actually
> >> > > >       > > off, not just have the volume turned down. So they could
> > use
> >> > the Web
> >> > > >       > > properly, for instance, without the interference of the
> >> > virtual buffer
> >> > > >       > > screen. Normal enough. But then, if they don't remember 
> >> > > > to
> >> > restart jaws
> >> > > >       > > (there's a toilet seat joke in there somewhere, with
> > screen
> >> > reader users
> >> > > >       > > being the female and sighted computer user friends being
> > the
> >> > males), then
> >> > > >       > > I
> >> > > >       > > just hit my shortcut key combo and it launches. And, if I
> > shut
> >> > down, next
> >> > > >       > > time I boot up, it loads as a service, as usual. Unless
> > this
> >> > isn't what
> >> > > >       > > "service" means?
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > > Okay, that's one question. The other is, if my Jaws is
> > already
> >> > loading on
> >> > > >       > > startup, then how come it doesn't already keep speaking
> > all
> >> > the way
> >> > > >       > > through
> >> > > >       > > the Windows shutdown sequence, until the screen goes 
> >> > > > dark?
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > > Maybe you can see the source of my confusion in my
> > questions.
> >> > I hope.
> >> > > >       > > Educated  me, please.
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > > Thanks.
> >> > > >       > > cirtual  enitrely,from the desktop or but that isn't my
> >> > pointcla
> >> > > >       > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > >       > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth"
> >> > <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >       > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS-Users"
> >> > <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > > >       > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:41 AM
> >> > > >       > > Subject: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a
> > Service
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > > Hi all,
> >> > > >       > > I've recently discovered that there is a way to manually
> > start
> >> > JAWS as a
> >> > > >       > > service using the JAWS shortcut placed on the desktop 
> >> > > > once
> >> > JAWS is
> >> > > >       > > installed. Here's how to do it:
> >> > > >       > > 1. Go to the desktop with Windows M
> >> > > >       > > 2. Press j until JAWS <version> (where <version> is the
> >> > version(s) of
> >> > > >       > > JAWS you've installed, such as JAWS 8.0).
> >> > > >       > > 3. Press alt enter to open the JAWS properties. The JAWS
> >> > properties
> >> > > >       > > dialogue box appears, with the target edit field in 
> >> > > > focus.
> >> > > >       > > 4. Delete what's in the target field and type the
> > following,
> >> > exactly as
> >> > > >       > > shown:
> >> > > >       > > net start jfwservice
> >> > > >       > > 5. Press enter.
> >> > > >       > > 6. Press F5 to refresh your desktop.
> >> > > >       > > To test this:
> >> > > >       > > 1. Unload JAWS with insert F4 and enter.
> >> > > >       > > 2. Go to the desktop and press enter on the JAWS icon
> > whose
> >> > properties
> >> > > >       > > you have modified.
> >> > > >       > > 3. Although JAWS will load as expected, you'll notice 
> >> > > > that
> >> > unlike the
> >> > > >       > > regular shortcut that's placed after you've installed
> > JAWS,
> >> > JAWS will
> >> > > >       > > speak even after you've logged off windows!
> >> > > >       > > Hope this tip is of some use! David, you may want to put
> > this
> >> > up on your
> >> > > >       > > site for those who are interested. Enjoy!
> >> > > >       > > Christopher Hallsworth
> >> > > >       > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >       > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266
> >> > > >       > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > >       > >
> >> > > >       > > --
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> >> > > >       >
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