Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Blake Sinnett" <frequency660@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service


> When you have JAWS running as a service, you can logoff and it will keep
> speaking at the welcome screen. Also, JAWS works when you lock the
computer
> with the windows plus l hotkey. If JAWS isn't ran as a service, however,
> JAWS becomes unresponsive and you must pull up narrator or guess what
> control you're on.
>
> From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:33:41 -0700
>
> Hi all,
>
> At this point, I have to confess that I've been taking some of these
> assertions on faith. I'm not arguing that Jaws may not load more quickly,
> once initiated, as a service, but to be honest, if I start it from a
hotkey
> when it's been turned off, or when I haven't yet checked the option for it
> to load automatically, it takes mere seconds. I don't see where that needs
> to be speeded up, not so far as I can tell. Is the gain in speed measured
in
> milliseconds? No objection if someone appreciates that; I'm just saying
that
> loading manually never seems slow to me.
>
> Also, even with Jaws running as a service, which I have it doing, it
speaks
> nothing at all on startup until it announces that it's ready, and then it
> speaks whatever icon it finds itself focused on on my Desktop. So I don't
> get this part of the claim to it speaking more on startup.
>
> Similarly, when I restart Windows or shut down my computer, Jaws says
> nothing before or after the Windows shutdown melody except for the one
word,
> "unavailable," for some reason. That's it. So all in all, I'm having it
run
> on startup for convenience, so I don't have to wait until I'm sure the
> machine's fully booted up to launch it, and that's about it.
>
> All that said, still I made that modification to the startup instructions
in
> Properties because several of you who seem a lot more knowledgeable and
> astute about this stuff than I said it was an advantageous thing to do,
and
> couldn't hurt. I say all this in perfectly good humor.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
>
>
> That's correct Don, JAWS will load sooner when started as a service
> rather than an application.
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:27:32 -0300, "Don Moore" <donmoore@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> said:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >     I have been following this thread with great interest and it seems
>  >     that the advantage of starting JAWS as a service instead of an
>  >     application is that JAWS loads sooner and, therefore, you get more
>  >     information while booting up your computer and you also get more
>  >     information reported by JAWS when shutting down your computer.
Please
>  >     correct me if I am wrong.
>  >
>  >     Furthermore, is it correct that starting JAWS automatically
>  >     accomplishes the same thing as replacing the path in the Desktop
>  >     shortcut for JAWS and, if so, does JAWS have to be running from the
>  >     System Tray as well to accomplish this?
>  >
>  >     Thanks in advance for enlightening me,
>  >
>  >     Don
>  >   ----- Original Message -----
>  >   From: Moti Azrad
>  >   To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >   Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:06 AM
>  >   Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
>  >
>  >
>  >   Hi all,
>  >
>  >   I didn't read this thread from the beginning but wish to know:
>  >   What is the plus to use Jaws as a service and not as an application?
>  >
>  >   Thanks
>  >
>  >   Moti
>  >
>  >   Moti Azrad
>  >   Musician & Piano-Tuner
>  >   motia@xxxxxxx
>  >   azrad_moty@xxxxxxxxxxx
>  >   motiaz@xxxxxxxxx
>  >   Israel
>  >     ----- Original Message -----
>  >     From: Christopher Bartlett
>  >     To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >     Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:20 PM
>  >     Subject: Re: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
>  >
>  >
>  >     Is there a way to have JFW come up as a service initially?
>  >
>  >              Christopher Bartlett
>  >
>  >     At 03:50 AM 6/27/2007, you wrote:
>  >     >What I was thinking is this. Say JAWS has crashed, or, like you
> said,
>  >     >someone wanted to use the computer with JAWS turned off. Well, if
> you
>  >     >restart JAWS in the normal way (i.e. from the original shortcut or
>  >     >hotkey that the shortcut's assigned to), JAWS will load as an
>  >     >application rather than a service. Now, if JAWS runs as an
>  > application,
>  >     >it will unload during the shutdown service, meaning it won't speak
>  >     >through the shutdown process. JAWS will also not speak when you're
>  > asked
>  >     >for a password to log back into Windows or any other Windows-based
>  > log
>  >     >on screen, such as the one that displays when you turn your
computer
>  >     >back on after a standby or hybernation procedure. If JAWS runs as
a
>  >     >service, however, JAWS will speak, even at the log in prompts and
>  > shut
>  >     >down screen. So this is why I thought this tip would be very
useful,
>  > so
>  >     >that you can restart JAWS manually, and it will still speak the
>  > above.
>  >     >Hope this clears any confusions you had.
>  >     >On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:12:08 -0700, "Yardbird"
>  > <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  >     >said:
>  >     > > hello.
>  >     > >
>  >     > > I'm not quite clear how this works. For one thing, I already
have
>  > Jaws
>  >     > > set
>  >     > > to load on startup (isn't that as a "service?"). So, the only
> time
>  > I use
>  >     > > my
>  >     > > shortcut (actually, I tend more often to use control alt j and
> not
>  > the
>  >     > > icon,
>  >     > > because I don't need Jaws running to find it!). But I don't
>  > understand
>  >     > > the
>  >     > > point of doing this. I'm missing something, maybe? Again, the
> only
>  > time I
>  >     > > start Jaws manually at all is when I've exited it for some
> reason,
>  > like
>  >     > > that
>  >     > > a sighted friend's been using the computer and preferred it to
be
>  >     > > actually
>  >     > > off, not just have the volume turned down. So they could use
the
>  > Web
>  >     > > properly, for instance, without the interference of the virtual
>  > buffer
>  >     > > screen. Normal enough. But then, if they don't remember to
> restart
>  > jaws
>  >     > > (there's a toilet seat joke in there somewhere, with screen
> reader
>  > users
>  >     > > being the female and sighted computer user friends being the
>  > males), then
>  >     > > I
>  >     > > just hit my shortcut key combo and it launches. And, if I shut
>  > down, next
>  >     > > time I boot up, it loads as a service, as usual. Unless this
> isn't
>  > what
>  >     > > "service" means?
>  >     > >
>  >     > > Okay, that's one question. The other is, if my Jaws is already
>  > loading on
>  >     > > startup, then how come it doesn't already keep speaking all the
>  > way
>  >     > > through
>  >     > > the Windows shutdown sequence, until the screen goes dark?
>  >     > >
>  >     > > Maybe you can see the source of my confusion in my questions. I
>  > hope.
>  >     > > Educated  me, please.
>  >     > >
>  >     > > Thanks.
>  >     > > cirtual  enitrely,from the desktop or but that isn't my
pointcla
>  >     > > ----- Original Message -----
>  >     > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  >     > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "JAWS-Users"
>  > <jaws-users-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  >     > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:41 AM
>  >     > > Subject: Tip of the Day: Manually Starting JAWS As a Service
>  >     > >
>  >     > >
>  >     > > Hi all,
>  >     > > I've recently discovered that there is a way to manually start
>  > JAWS as a
>  >     > > service using the JAWS shortcut placed on the desktop once JAWS
> is
>  >     > > installed. Here's how to do it:
>  >     > > 1. Go to the desktop with Windows M
>  >     > > 2. Press j until JAWS <version> (where <version> is the
> version(s)
>  > of
>  >     > > JAWS you've installed, such as JAWS 8.0).
>  >     > > 3. Press alt enter to open the JAWS properties. The JAWS
>  > properties
>  >     > > dialogue box appears, with the target edit field in focus.
>  >     > > 4. Delete what's in the target field and type the following,
>  > exactly as
>  >     > > shown:
>  >     > > net start jfwservice
>  >     > > 5. Press enter.
>  >     > > 6. Press F5 to refresh your desktop.
>  >     > > To test this:
>  >     > > 1. Unload JAWS with insert F4 and enter.
>  >     > > 2. Go to the desktop and press enter on the JAWS icon whose
>  > properties
>  >     > > you have modified.
>  >     > > 3. Although JAWS will load as expected, you'll notice that
unlike
>  > the
>  >     > > regular shortcut that's placed after you've installed JAWS,
JAWS
>  > will
>  >     > > speak even after you've logged off windows!
>  >     > > Hope this tip is of some use! David, you may want to put this
up
>  > on your
>  >     > > site for those who are interested. Enjoy!
>  >     > > Christopher Hallsworth
>  >     > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  >     > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266
>  >     > > MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
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