JFW isn't the problem. In fact, JFW handles this aspect well. It's the difference between WordPerfect and MS Word. With WordPerfect, all such formatting features can be readily located. But MS Word is pretty much universal, and so most people have no choice but to work with it. I'm one of the fortunate ones who doesn't. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Bron I agree. The revealed codes in JFW is less than adequate and sometimes doesn't pick up everything like alignment. Also, how do you reveal codes in headers and footers? ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Spratt Agreed, insert-f is useful, but it doesn't tell you exactly where the formatting commences or ends, unless you go character by character around the document. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Bron The closest they come is jaws key plus the letter F. JB ----- Original Message ----- From: Marijan Janev I can't see any diffrence when I press shift+F1 in Word. Wordperfect reveal code is something very complex and extremely useful, especially for me as blind. I do want to know how to get similar information like in WP reveal code. Thanks!