Re: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion video card.

  • From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:36:36 -0500

    Thanks,  Chip,
I am in contact with some  individuals  to try to get info from users if any
video card support JAWS and MAGIC used together.

My  simple question has always been and  I  did   read the website-- if
there have been any video cards  actually ever  "  tested for joint use of
JAWS  and
MAGIC.
Although MAGIC 8 and particularly 9 are good products and although JAWS is a
fine product used alone,
all the companies that make enlarging software "say" that  screen readers
and enlarging software can be used together.
I have asked every one by telephone that can be asked  and now am writing to
individuals to find  out if there is any video cards  suporting joint usage.
That is the fairest manner I can find for trying to find an answer  and,
Chip, I tend over time to agree more  and  more with what you say.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion video card.


> Sorry, didn't mean to imply they aren't fixing things, of course they
> are.  I meant to state, that they have a history of blaming problems on
> you (or your graphics card) when the problem is really in jaws.  Perhaps
> this problem has existed for a long time, so it gets blamed on several,
> varying, models of graphics cards, or perhaps not; however, the fact
> that we have many many folks using the same configuration just fine, and
> who say so over and over again, is simply ignored, while the poor folks
> with the problem are told to go buy a new graphics card.
>
> That may actually help, but then, so might any number of other system
> changes, but spreading the word that brand X of graphics card is
> incompatible with jaws is not a responsible business practice in my
> opinion, when you have much evidence to the contrary.  It serves only to
> make people think that you're "on top of things"  and that the fault is
> someone else's.
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> Chip
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> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill
> > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:54 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion=20
> > video card.
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> > chip thinkyou could not be more wrong, i think often they do=20
> > fix the issue in a newer jfw release, the memo or fix info is=20
> > left for those using older versions of jfw.
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> > its one reason picking a older not new out of the box video=20
> > card is a wiser choice for a blind user.
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> > as far as a t i is concern the 9000model to the 9500 are=20
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> > the 9600 underwent much change when a t i acquired a video=20
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> > also cards prior to the 9000 are also significantly differant=20
> > so expecting drivers from a t i to be identical for differant=20
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> > think the majic a t i issue hasnothing to do with jfw and=20
> > think it occurs with out jfw on the system.
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> > like pullman i agree because the a t i card has been in the=20
> > pipe line jfw should solve the problem for such a popular=20
> > andmainstreem card in the market and get it working with majic.
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> > where i do agrree with you chip is that f s should at least=20
> > put forth a small list of cards that do work.
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> > at least name one card that works with both magic and jfw.
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