I don't doubt you or your problems, but FS has been known to give out wrong answers to folks over the phone (or via email, I'm certainly one of the recipients). I'd like to hear if we have any users of jaws/magic with ATI radeon cards on this list. it's been my experience that FS has no real idea why some systems crash with video card errors (and changing the video card solves the problem), while other systems with the same video card work fine. There are simply too many of us here using the ATI radeon series for there to be a general problem with them. It appears that FS has a very specific set of circumstances that cause them a problem that they don't seem to be able to identify (at least, that's how I see it). Chip =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:13 PM > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion video card. >=20 > Hi, > Freedom Scientific just verified that the crashes caused by=20 > JAWS and MAGIC are related to my use of the ATI Radion video card. >=20 > So if one wishes to use MAGIC and particularly MAGIC and=20 > JAWS together, consider not buyingthe Ati Radion video card. >=20 > Otherwise, the 2 programs or MaGIC alone shouldw ork fine. >=20 > I am sure some people will saythiswill not happen if =20 > onegets the OEM version of the ATi Radion cards, but this was=20 > just proven otherwise with F S on the phone. >=20 > -- > To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to=20 > jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the=20 > subject line. > Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw >=20 > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from=20 > the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them=20 > to the list. Rather contact the list owner at=20 > jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >=20 -- To post a message to the list, send it to jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to jfw-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/jfw If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at jfw-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx