Re: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion video card.

Chip, I  was also referring to  Freedom Scientific sitting with me on the
phone as I reproduced the issue.  The crashes are serious crashes.

I simply can choose to use MaGIC alone but   I had hoped for far far more
when I took the recommendation to  use the ATI Radion card.
David  is probably right that the issues complicate when one uses 2 software
programs for  blind  and visually impaired at once even if produced bythe
same company.
That is why I wrote so many letters to F S  asI wanted  the  issue to be
pinpointed right away.

Other than  using the ATI   card, I would bet that MAGIC and JAWS would
coexist quite well and work  together well.

I usedthe  oldL P Windows the predecessor of MAGIc and  worked with Zoomtext
a bit. I would say that MAGIC  is a good program and should work with jAWS
*normally* without problems.

MAGIC is very stable in and of itself.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion video card.


> Just to be clear; I wasn't disappointed in Dell when I said "they" in my
> earlier post, I meant that I was disappointed in FS tech
> support/development.
>
> The issue of tech support of large computer vendors is probably not one
> for this list.
>
> Chip
>
> =20
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Gomes
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:23 PM
> > To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion=20
> > video card.
> >=20
> > I don't know how pat got up in the food chain with dell. When=20
> > you call customer service you get people in India, Argentina=20
> > or the Philippines. You can't even understand them. It is=20
> > very hard. True they don't know what is going on. They use to=20
> > have great customer service.
> >=20
> >=20
> > finnygomes@xxxxxxx
> > web site
> > www.rellek.com/stevegomes
> > phone 720-747-4990
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion=20
> > video card.
> >=20
> >=20
> > > Absolutely!!!  No argument from me on that one.
> > >
> > > I am just perturbed because I think they are giving out incorrect
> > > assessments or advice, when they don't know what's going=20
> > on, and I think
> > > they know that they don't know what's going on (if you followed all
> > > that).
> > >
> > > Chip
> > >
> > > =3D20
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
> > >> [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of david poehlman
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:45 PM
> > >> To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: Re: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion=3D20
> > >> video card.
> > >>=3D20
> > >> freedom should consider fixing the issue.
> > >>=3D20
> > >> Johnnie Apple Seed
> > >>=3D20
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <ptusing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:13 PM
> > >> Subject: Magic + JAWS crashing issue caused by ATI Radion=20
> > video card.
> > >>=3D20
> > >>=3D20
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Freedom Scientific just verified that  the crashes caused by=3D20
> > >> JAWS and MAGIC
> > >> are related to my use of the ATI Radion  video card.
> > >>=3D20
> > >> So  if  one wishes to use MAGIC and  particularly MAGIC and=3D20
> > >> JAWS together,
> > >> consider not buyingthe Ati Radion video card.
> > >>=3D20
> > >> Otherwise,  the 2 programs or MaGIC alone shouldw ork fine.
> > >>=3D20
> > >> I am sure some people  will saythiswill not happen if =20
> > onegets the OEM
> > >> version of the ATi Radion cards, but this was just proven=3D20
> > >> otherwise with F S
> > >> on the  phone.
> > >>=3D20
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