RE: JFW/PROGRAMMING
- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:58:08 -0600
Hi,
I programmed with Artic many years ago and JAWS would have been a really
great improvement.
I programmed in IBM 360 Assembler, COBOL, Basic and C++.
It can be done.
Cy, The Anasazi
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of PRAKASH P
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 1:06 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: JFW/PROGRAMMING
Thanks. Would help to know if he programs in some language. But I don't
know Braille yet and not sure if
I will get to that level of ability with it soon.
Prakash
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yadiel Sotomayor
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:31 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I am not a programmer, although I would like to learn. But I do know a blind
programmer. He uses a large 80 cell braille display and a portable 40
braille display from programming on the go. He says that it helps a lot to
"see" the line of code and it is easier to find problems and stuff like
that.
From: John Martyn <mailto:johnrobertmartyn@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:32 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I can understand your struggle. I used to do much in the way of programming.
Now after almost 3 years of being blind, I jumped back on that horse. It was
an adjustment period but I think the things that have changed the most is
learning to structure your code the way it is written differently. Each line
has to be read out so it is best to have different profiles for programming
than just navigating with jaws. Debugging is a little more difficult so to
read each line more thoroughly can be time consuming. I have jaws read out
every little character. It just takes practice. Some programs don't read the
lines the way you wish they would. I am still experimenting with using jaws
configuration files to customize the way I interact with each line. I think
as far as ease of coding, jaws script is the most forgiving in terms of
debugging things because the compiler has code checking for you. Other
programs are not as forgiving. PHP and mySQL is a challenge, but I can still
do it. I'm just getting started on C++ so I'll see how it goes.
You can write to me off list if you have more questions,
JohnRobertMartyn@xxxxxxxxx
regards,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Hina Altaf <mailto:haltaf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: JFW/PROGRAMMING
Hi,
I think to listen to a code with jaws can be a bit challenging because you
might not notice what exactly is wrong, so it is better to read the code
with braille display attached. I myself studied programming and it was
possible but you have to get used to listening to the code with jaws.
Thanks.
Hina altaf
Assistive technology specialist.
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of PRAKASH P
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 9:43 AM
To: JFW@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: PRAKASH P
Subject: JFW/PROGRAMMING
I HAVE RECENTLY COME TO A POINT WHERE I CANNOT DO ANYTHING VISUALLY ON THE
COMPUTER SCREEN.
I HAVE BEEN USING zOOMtEXT AUDIO EFFECTIVELY UNTIL NOW. But now I am told
JFW is the way to go.
Can someone give me a good view/opinion of how effective/efficient would
it b to do programming for a living with or without JFW.
I have 20 years of programming experience with MS environments being the
latest. I am able to read all ctooll tip based text and the program text
itself but not sure if I can compete with
The visually enhanced set. I know I have much learning to do but I would
like a seasoned person to give a sense of whats possible.
I am a good learner if not a speedy one.
I am trying to figure out if I should or should not give up on serious
implementation responsibilities.
Thanks for any and all input I can get.
Prakash
Prakash
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