Re: Can JAWS damage Word files?
- From: Quanin <quanin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:37:49 -0500
JAWS can't load templates into Word. As I saidd when it was designed, it
wasn't made to access anything outside its own directory except in an
observer capacity. That said, there may be a problem with Word's settings.
I'd have to actually look at it to see for sure what it is.
James
At 07:33 PM 11/03/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>Hey, your two sense certainly means a lot!! Do you mean the template that
>may modify files is loaded by JAWS?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Fran
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mickey Quenzer" <mickeyqu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:08 AM
>Subject: Re: Can JAWS damage Word files?
>
>
> > Hi Fran:
> >
> > This is a good question, and one which points out something. I sure wish
> > someone from Freedom Scientific could monitor this list and give some
>input.
> >
> > Now for my two cents which may not mean much.
> >
> > I think that JFW doesn't modify documents, but what I think happens is
>that
> > some template does get loaded which can modify them.
> >
> > ANY WORD EXPERTS OUT THERE?
> >
> > I have no problem being proven wrong! GRIN!
> > ******* MQ
> > *******
> > ******* Home Page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mickeyqu *******
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chandni" <chandni1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: Can JAWS damage Word files?
> >
> >
> > > Dale,
> > > I don't see why this should be offtopic!! When JAWS isn't able to tell
>us
> > > what's going on, that in itself is a problem for us, and if we grow
> > > impatient we can make our PCs crash! Thanks so much for your warning.
> > > Actually I save to my local C drive. I doubt I'm experiencing the
>problem
> > > you describe because it doesn't only happen when I save a document, but
> > > sometimes it occurs when I simply type or read through it, especially
> > > working with tables. But I had the impression it may be some kind of
> > > overload for JAWS.
> > >
> > > James, Office has just been reinstalled a few weeks ago...I guess it
>would
> > > be no use to reinstall it...
> > >
> > > Thanks so much to everybody who's trying to help me figure it out!
> > >
> > > Fran
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dale Leavens" <dleavens@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Can JAWS damage Word files?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Fran,
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of achieving moderated status, may I ask if the Word files
> > are
> > > > being saved on your local computer or on a shared network drive?
> > > >
> > > > If my hunch is correct, this is only indirectly Jaws related and I am
> > > > probably in big doodoo. The problem is probably that for that instant
> > when
> > > > Word is saving the Word document Jaws cannot respond. This is usually
>so
> > > > very brief you wouldn't notice it however if the document is being
>saved
> > > > across the network that instant can be prolonged into minutes under
>some
> > > > circumstances. Since you don't see the hourglass you can't tell that
>the
> > > > computer is busy.
> > > >
> > > > As you attempt to continue working with Jaws the input buffer becomes
> > > > overrun or something like that seems to happen and you are into error
> > > > conditions which Jaws cannot tell you about being as it isn't working
> > and
> > > is
> > > > in fact part of the problem now. In turn the various applications and
> > > > network resource requirements freeze things up and you get an
> > incompletely
> > > > saved document.
> > > >
> > > > This seems to happen to me on my job, usually between 5 and 6 in the
> > > evening
> > > > when it is they run their timed back-up. This slows the network and if
>I
> > > am
> > > > not very careful and or forget and begin demanding use of my computer
> > > before
> > > > the network releases the document I get a freeze which requires a
> > re-boot
> > > > and usually results in lost data.
> > > >
> > > > Our I.T. people deny it but so far none has come around to examine the
> > > > damaged documents so I now make sure to be extremely careful if I get
> > > caught
> > > > working late or deliberately save to a local drive and copy the
>document
> > > in
> > > > the morning.
> > > >
> > > > I am unaware of how and where Word stores the temporary back-up files
>it
> > > > uses when one of the target storage devices is a LAN but for me it has
> > not
> > > > been very successful at restoring a failed save under those
> > circumstances.
> > > >
> > > > If not a network or other slow situation then it is beyond my
> > experience.
> > > If
> > > > not direct enough a Jaws related issue then my apologies Bruce, Honest
>I
> > > > have tried not to answer questions directly on the list however having
> > > > worked hours late only to have documents corrupted and even data lost
>I
> > > felt
> > > > list wide comment might save someone else beyond this particular
>lister
> > > some
> > > > substantial frustration.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario
> > > > dleavens@xxxxxxx
> > > > Home of the Polar Bear Express!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Quanin" <quanin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Can JAWS damage Word files?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's doubtful. JAWS doesn't have access to any files on your system
>that
> > > > aren't related to the program itself. It doesn't manipulate files.
>Files
> > > > manipulate the program. It's entirely likely that, when your work PC
> > > > crashes, it attempts to back up the files first and is, possibly,
> > > > unsuccessful. The fact that they are able to be restored suggests this
> > is
> > > > probably the most likely solution. Unless a program itself is trying
>to
> > > use
> > > > the same resources as JAWS, for instance another screen reader, JAWS
> > > > shouldn't conflict.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > At 11:39 PM 08/03/2004 +0100, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi all,
> > > > >I have a problem on my work PC which occurs frequently. While I'm in
>a
> > > word
> > > > >document, sometimes the PC crashes and when I restart the computer
>the
> > > file
> > > > >is damaged. A bunch of temporary files are generated - from which the
> > > guys
> > > > >at tech support are able to restore my original document (but I can't
> > ask
> > > > >them everytime!). Nobody has a clue as to why. They even re-installed
> > > > Office
> > > > >but the problem persists. I find it happens more frequently when I
>work
> > > > with
> > > > >tables.
> > > > >
> > > > >Is it possible that a conflict with JAWS is causing this? Just
> > exploring
> > > > all
> > > > >possibilities, trying to find a solution!!
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks so much in advance
> > > > >
> > > > >Fran
> > > > >
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