Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

Even though the letter wizzard has been officially removed from Word 2007, and 
can be found nowhere on any ribbon, it still comes up when you press Alt t, 
followed by E, then Z.




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gerald Levy 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:40 PM
  Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007



  Not exactly true.  While you can indeed access most of Word 2003's options 
with the Word 2007 ribbon menu system, there is one glaring omission: the 
beloved Letter Wizard, which many blind users depend on to format and compose 
their business and personal correspondence.  There are even a couple of audio 
tutorials on using the Letter Wizard with JAWS or other screen reader, so it is 
apparently a very popular function.  But in its infinite wisdom, MS saw fit to 
eliminate it from Word 2007, leaving no practical alternative for JAWS users 
except for a confounding array of templates which are largely inaccessible. So 
unless you are forced by your employer to rely on this clunker of a word 
processor, I see no good reason to purchase it for home use. 

  Gerald 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rose Combs 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 1:34 PM
    Subject: RE: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


    If you spend a few minutes investigating the ribbons and using the 
tutorials available, office 2007 is just about the same is 2003, and if you 
already know keystrokes for items they are still able to be used.  Sure there 
is a learning curve, as with any program but it really isn't as bad as some 
make out.  I admit I'd prefer the menus but I can work with I have and, 
National Braille Press sells books on shortcut or keyboard commands that are 
helpful and inexpensive.  

     

    If you don't need to upgrade don't but, if your job requires it, or if you 
are just wanting to keep up-to-date, it isn't as horrible as some programs that 
have you constantly in the Jaws cursor mode clicking on everything etc.  

     

     

    Rose Combs

    rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx

     

    From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Alex Midence
    Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:21 PM
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

     

    Dude, I'm gonna tell it to ya straight.  Don't listen to anybody trying to 
sell you on 2007.  Especially, don't let them do it to you if you're using 
office applications to do your job.  It is one major productivity killer.  If 
you want to upgrade, get 2003.  You can buy it on eBay for a couple hundred 
dollars if you don't mind going that route.  Just make sure the ad says it's 
brand new and stil in the box.  If you go 2007, just pretend you got yourself a 
whole new wordprocessor to learn.  Go in with the mentality of a rookie/newbie 
because all your old hotkey friends are no more.  Most folks just don't have 
that kind of time.  They buy the same software's upgrades when they come out 
because they expect to just be able to jump right in and start working and 
producing the same output of work as they did with the prior version if not 
more.  If they wanted to learn a whole new piece of software, they'd've bought 
wordperfect or something.  Jaws still works great with 2003 and you can still 
hit the ground running with it straight out of the box coming from office 2000. 
 Don't just take my word for it on how bad 07 is.  Just google "hate office 
2007" and you'll see what I mean by productivity killer.  I wish with all my 
heart that I could go back to 2003 at the office but, everyone's been migrated 
and we are all still fussing and cussing about it and it's been like 2 months 
already since the upgrade.  I'm telling you, it's just NOT worth it.  It is one 
royal, unmitigated, colossal, ferocious, and persistent pain in the back side.  
Only reason I'm not using any more adjectives is because I ran out of clean 
ones and, as usual when I think of this thing, I find myself in great need of 
some scotch.

     

    One man's opinion,

    Alex

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Yardbird 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 AM

      Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

       

      Hi Sue,

       

      I'm still using one of the older versions of Word, but feel as if it 
might be a practical idea to buy and install Word 2007 one of these days in 
order not to be left behind with decreasing jaws support for my Word 2000. But 
I don't even know a couple of basic things, like can you just purchase Word 
2007 alone, or must you get it as part of that office suite, and is that an 
expensive proposition? And second, how does a Jaws user learn to use Word 2007 
and its notorious ribbon? Is there a tutorial or an instruction manual for it 
somewhere online?

       

      thanks.

      Joel

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Sue B 

      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

      Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:01 AM

      Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

       

      I'm going to throw my two cents worth in on this one. I agree with George 
that those menus aren't really all that useful. If you are new to MS Office 
then skip them altogether and learn how the ribbons work. If you are firmly 
attached to the menus as they were used in earlier versions of MS Office, then 
these might be useful for finding commands that you don't have keystrokes 
already memorized for. However, they don't just add the menu bar back so that 
you can go on with things as you always did, there is still new stuff to learn. 
I've found in teaching that I can teach someone who was familiar with the menus 
to use the ribbons in about as much time as it takes to teach them to find and 
then navigate these add-ins.  My vote is that if you are using JAWS 10, I'd go 
for taking the time to learn how to navigate the ribbons. In case anyone is 
anxious about the switch to Office 2007, most of the dialog boxes, once you get 
to them from the ribbon, are the same as the ones in Office 2003 were, so 
getting to the options you need isn't really all that different.

      Sue B.

      George B wrote: 

      Dave eather have I they are kind of confusing let me know what you figure 
out.

      "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The 
courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

      From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
      Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 04:11
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

      Anyone actually tried to use these? They seem to be templates but I've 
not been able to make them work.

      Dave

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Gerald Levy 

        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

        Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:55

        Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

        I can go one step further.  Below is the link to a web site from which 
you can download a free add-on to Word 2007 that adds the classic Word 2003 
menus.  This way, you can have your cake and eat it too.  If you are befuddled 
by Word 2007's ribbon menus, you can just switch to the more familiar Word 2003 
menus.

        http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

        Gerald 

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Curtis Jackson 

          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:20 PM

          Subject: RE: page layout in word 2007

          Can you tell me what Kim koomandos web site is please?


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          From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
          Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:52 PM
          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

          Hi,  Kim Koomando posted a program on her Cool Site of the Day on May 
19th that described a free program to replace the Word 2007 Ribbon with all 
your familiar menus.

          If you search her site I expect you can find this particular post and 
the link to the company that provides the download.  Good luck, Mitch

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Dave Carlson 

            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:20 PM

            Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

            John,

            Welcome to the confusing world of Office 2007 and the ribbon!

            You'll probably spend a lot of time groping around the ribbon, 
looking for your old familiar dialog boxes. It wasn't easy for me.

            Simply to answer your question:

            Alt-p

            Down arrow

            Tab 4 times

            Enter

            Dave

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: John Fioravanti 

              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

              Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 14:16

              Subject: page layout in word 2007

              Hi: I just installed word 2007 and when I go to page layout to 
hopefully get to margin setings, it says hit tab or shiftt Alt followed by p. 
when I use tab or shift tab it talks about help and alt and P do nothing. Any 
help would be appreciated. John Fioravanti


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