Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

Alex,

I understand you have good intentions, but I'm not a particularly young man 
(65)and I don't have much hair left to pull out. As for serious drinking, heart 
problems and a benign brain tumor make that a pretty unlikely recreation these 
days.

Joel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Alex Midence 
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


And drinking a lot or wishing you could.  Don't do it.  You're still a young 
man!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gerald Levy 
  To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007



  Joel,

  Unless you're prepared to spend a lot of time learning a completely new menu 
system and dealing with Word 2007's irritating quirks like default double 
spacing instead of single spacing, stick with Word 2000 or 2003.  Otherwise, 
you'll be pulling out whatever hair you have left in frustration.

  Gerald 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Yardbird 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:12 PM
    Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


    Gerald,

    I use Word all day, every day. word 2000, that is, and I'm not the least 
bit dissatisfied with it except that I occasionally hear rumors that Jaws won't 
be working well with some of its functions for very long, and that sort of 
thing. I even have a copy of Word 2003 that came loaded onto my computer when 
it was new, but I don't even use that, mostly because I really can't figure out 
the changed Thesaurus function that I've come to know and love for its design 
and simple accessibility in Word 2000. So even though I use Word quite  a bit, 
maybe bothering with Word 2007 isn't yet worth the trouble?
    Joel
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Gerald Levy 
    To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:54 AM
    Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007



    Unfortunately, you have to purchase the entire MS Office 2007 suite just to 
get Word 2007.  You can pick it up for under $150, depending on which edition 
you want.  FS provides a series of Daisy book tutorials on using Office 2007 
with  JAWS. Unless you do a lot of word processing, there's probably no good 
reason to rush out and buy it . 

    Gerald 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Yardbird 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:25 AM
      Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


      Hi Sue,

      I'm still using one of the older versions of Word, but feel as if it 
might be a practical idea to buy and install Word 2007 one of these days in 
order not to be left behind with decreasing jaws support for my Word 2000. But 
I don't even know a couple of basic things, like can you just purchase Word 
2007 alone, or must you get it as part of that office suite, and is that an 
expensive proposition? And second, how does a Jaws user learn to use Word 2007 
and its notorious ribbon? Is there a tutorial or an instruction manual for it 
somewhere online?

      thanks.
      Joel
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sue B 
      To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:01 AM
      Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


      I'm going to throw my two cents worth in on this one. I agree with George 
that those menus aren't really all that useful. If you are new to MS Office 
then skip them altogether and learn how the ribbons work. If you are firmly 
attached to the menus as they were used in earlier versions of MS Office, then 
these might be useful for finding commands that you don't have keystrokes 
already memorized for. However, they don't just add the menu bar back so that 
you can go on with things as you always did, there is still new stuff to learn. 
I've found in teaching that I can teach someone who was familiar with the menus 
to use the ribbons in about as much time as it takes to teach them to find and 
then navigate these add-ins.  My vote is that if you are using JAWS 10, I'd go 
for taking the time to learn how to navigate the ribbons. In case anyone is 
anxious about the switch to Office 2007, most of the dialog boxes, once you get 
to them from the ribbon, are the same as the ones in Office 2003 were, so 
getting to the options you need isn't really all that different.

      Sue B.

      George B wrote: 
        Dave eather have I they are kind of confusing let me know what you 
figure out.


        "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The 
courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.


        From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
        Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 04:11
        To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007


        Anyone actually tried to use these? They seem to be templates but I've 
not been able to make them work.


        Dave


          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Gerald Levy 

          To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:55

          Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007



          I can go one step further.  Below is the link to a web site from 
which you can download a free add-on to Word 2007 that adds the classic Word 
2003 menus.  This way, you can have your cake and eat it too.  If you are 
befuddled by Word 2007's ribbon menus, you can just switch to the more familiar 
Word 2003 menus.


          http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins


          Gerald 

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Curtis Jackson 

            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

            Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:20 PM

            Subject: RE: page layout in word 2007


            Can you tell me what Kim koomandos web site is please?



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            From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
            Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:52 PM
            To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007


            Hi,  Kim Koomando posted a program on her Cool Site of the Day on 
May 19th that described a free program to replace the Word 2007 Ribbon with all 
your familiar menus.

            If you search her site I expect you can find this particular post 
and the link to the company that provides the download.  Good luck, Mitch

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: Dave Carlson 

              To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

              Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:20 PM

              Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007


              John,


              Welcome to the confusing world of Office 2007 and the ribbon!


              You'll probably spend a lot of time groping around the ribbon, 
looking for your old familiar dialog boxes. It wasn't easy for me.


              Simply to answer your question:


              Alt-p

              Down arrow

              Tab 4 times

              Enter



              Dave


                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: John Fioravanti 

                To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

                Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 14:16

                Subject: page layout in word 2007


                Hi: I just installed word 2007 and when I go to page layout to 
hopefully get to margin setings, it says hit tab or shiftt Alt followed by p. 
when I use tab or shift tab it talks about help and alt and P do nothing. Any 
help would be appreciated. John Fioravanti


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