RE: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

  • From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 10:34:24 -0700

If you spend a few minutes investigating the ribbons and using the tutorials
available, office 2007 is just about the same is 2003, and if you already
know keystrokes for items they are still able to be used.  Sure there is a
learning curve, as with any program but it really isn't as bad as some make
out.  I admit I'd prefer the menus but I can work with I have and, National
Braille Press sells books on shortcut or keyboard commands that are helpful
and inexpensive.  

 

If you don't need to upgrade don't but, if your job requires it, or if you
are just wanting to keep up-to-date, it isn't as horrible as some programs
that have you constantly in the Jaws cursor mode clicking on everything etc.


 

 

Rose Combs

rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx

 

From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Alex Midence
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:21 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

 

Dude, I'm gonna tell it to ya straight.  Don't listen to anybody trying to
sell you on 2007.  Especially, don't let them do it to you if you're using
office applications to do your job.  It is one major productivity killer.
If you want to upgrade, get 2003.  You can buy it on eBay for a couple
hundred dollars if you don't mind going that route.  Just make sure the ad
says it's brand new and stil in the box.  If you go 2007, just pretend you
got yourself a whole new wordprocessor to learn.  Go in with the mentality
of a rookie/newbie because all your old hotkey friends are no more.  Most
folks just don't have that kind of time.  They buy the same software's
upgrades when they come out because they expect to just be able to jump
right in and start working and producing the same output of work as they did
with the prior version if not more.  If they wanted to learn a whole new
piece of software, they'd've bought wordperfect or something.  Jaws still
works great with 2003 and you can still hit the ground running with it
straight out of the box coming from office 2000.  Don't just take my word
for it on how bad 07 is.  Just google "hate office 2007" and you'll see what
I mean by productivity killer.  I wish with all my heart that I could go
back to 2003 at the office but, everyone's been migrated and we are all
still fussing and cussing about it and it's been like 2 months already since
the upgrade.  I'm telling you, it's just NOT worth it.  It is one royal,
unmitigated, colossal, ferocious, and persistent pain in the back side.
Only reason I'm not using any more adjectives is because I ran out of clean
ones and, as usual when I think of this thing, I find myself in great need
of some scotch.

 

One man's opinion,

Alex

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Yardbird <mailto:yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 AM

Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

 

Hi Sue,

 

I'm still using one of the older versions of Word, but feel as if it might
be a practical idea to buy and install Word 2007 one of these days in order
not to be left behind with decreasing jaws support for my Word 2000. But I
don't even know a couple of basic things, like can you just purchase Word
2007 alone, or must you get it as part of that office suite, and is that an
expensive proposition? And second, how does a Jaws user learn to use Word
2007 and its notorious ribbon? Is there a tutorial or an instruction manual
for it somewhere online?

 

thanks.

Joel

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Sue B <mailto:sueb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:01 AM

Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

 

I'm going to throw my two cents worth in on this one. I agree with George
that those menus aren't really all that useful. If you are new to MS Office
then skip them altogether and learn how the ribbons work. If you are firmly
attached to the menus as they were used in earlier versions of MS Office,
then these might be useful for finding commands that you don't have
keystrokes already memorized for. However, they don't just add the menu bar
back so that you can go on with things as you always did, there is still new
stuff to learn. I've found in teaching that I can teach someone who was
familiar with the menus to use the ribbons in about as much time as it takes
to teach them to find and then navigate these add-ins.  My vote is that if
you are using JAWS 10, I'd go for taking the time to learn how to navigate
the ribbons. In case anyone is anxious about the switch to Office 2007, most
of the dialog boxes, once you get to them from the ribbon, are the same as
the ones in Office 2003 were, so getting to the options you need isn't
really all that different.

Sue B.

George B wrote: 

Dave eather have I they are kind of confusing let me know what you figure
out.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage
to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 04:11
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

Anyone actually tried to use these? They seem to be templates but I've not
been able to make them work.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Gerald <mailto:bwaylimited@xxxxxxxxxxx>  Levy 

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:55

Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

I can go one step further.  Below is the link to a web site from which you
can download a free add-on to Word 2007 that adds the classic Word 2003
menus.  This way, you can have your cake and eat it too.  If you are
befuddled by Word 2007's ribbon menus, you can just switch to the more
familiar Word 2003 menus.

http://in.geocities.com/shahshaileshs/menuaddins

Gerald 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Curtis Jackson <mailto:cjackson102@xxxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:20 PM

Subject: RE: page layout in word 2007

Can you tell me what Kim koomandos web site is please?

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:52 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

Hi,  Kim Koomando posted a program on her Cool Site of the Day on May 19th
that described a free program to replace the Word 2007 Ribbon with all your
familiar menus.

If you search her site I expect you can find this particular post and the
link to the company that provides the download.  Good luck, Mitch

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Dave <mailto:dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  Carlson 

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

John,

Welcome to the confusing world of Office 2007 and the ribbon!

You'll probably spend a lot of time groping around the ribbon, looking for
your old familiar dialog boxes. It wasn't easy for me.

Simply to answer your question:

Alt-p

Down arrow

Tab 4 times

Enter

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 

From: John Fioravanti <mailto:fioresq1@xxxxxxxxxxx>  

To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 14:16

Subject: page layout in word 2007

Hi: I just installed word 2007 and when I go to page layout to hopefully get
to margin setings, it says hit tab or shiftt Alt followed by p. when I use
tab or shift tab it talks about help and alt and P do nothing. Any help
would be appreciated. John Fioravanti

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