Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

  • From: Sue B <sueb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 10:15:12 -0400

Alex,

Your advice is perfect! The only advantage to having office 2007 right now that I've seen is that sometimes those who have it send attachments with the .docx extension that can't be opened with earlier versions of Word. Then you have to e-mail the sender and get them to convert it and resend. A real pain. I don't think learning Office 2007 is a huge crisis, but it is a productivity killer if it is installed on your computer and you have to hit the ground running with it. I haven't even personally put it on my main laptop that I used for most tasks because it just feels so cumbersome. The only think I can hope for is that Microsoft hears all of the terrible feedback about that product and does something to remedy it.

Sue B.

Alex Midence wrote:
Dude, I'm gonna tell it to ya straight.  Don't listen to anybody trying to sell you on 2007.  Especially, don't let them do it to you if you're using office applications to do your job.  It is one major productivity killer.  If you want to upgrade, get 2003.  You can buy it on eBay for a couple hundred dollars if you don't mind going that route.  Just make sure the ad says it's brand new and stil in the box.  If you go 2007, just pretend you got yourself a whole new wordprocessor to learn.  Go in with the mentality of a rookie/newbie because all your old hotkey friends are no more.  Most folks just don't have that kind of time.  They buy the same software's upgrades when they come out because they expect to just be able to jump right in and start working and producing the same output of work as they did with the prior version if not more.  If they wanted to learn a whole new piece of software, they'd've bought wordperfect or something.  Jaws still works great with 2003 and you can still hit the ground running with it straight out of the box coming from office 2000.  Don't just take my word for it on how bad 07 is.  Just google "hate office 2007" and you'll see what I mean by productivity killer.  I wish with all my heart that I could go back to 2003 at the office but, everyone's been migrated and we are all still fussing and cussing about it and it's been like 2 months already since the upgrade.  I'm telling you, it's just NOT worth it.  It is one royal, unmitigated, colossal, ferocious, and persistent pain in the back side.  Only reason I'm not using any more adjectives is because I ran out of clean ones and, as usual when I think of this thing, I find myself in great need of some scotch.
 
One man's opinion,
Alex
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Yardbird
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

Hi Sue,
 
I'm still using one of the older versions of Word, but feel as if it might be a practical idea to buy and install Word 2007 one of these days in order not to be left behind with decreasing jaws support for my Word 2000. But I don't even know a couple of basic things, like can you just purchase Word 2007 alone, or must you get it as part of that office suite, and is that an expensive proposition? And second, how does a Jaws user learn to use Word 2007 and its notorious ribbon? Is there a tutorial or an instruction manual for it somewhere online?
 
thanks.
Joel
----- Original Message -----
From: Sue B
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

I'm going to throw my two cents worth in on this one. I agree with George that those menus aren't really all that useful. If you are new to MS Office then skip them altogether and learn how the ribbons work. If you are firmly attached to the menus as they were used in earlier versions of MS Office, then these might be useful for finding commands that you don't have keystrokes already memorized for. However, they don't just add the menu bar back so that you can go on with things as you always did, there is still new stuff to learn. I've found in teaching that I can teach someone who was familiar with the menus to use the ribbons in about as much time as it takes to teach them to find and then navigate these add-ins.  My vote is that if you are using JAWS 10, I'd go for taking the time to learn how to navigate the ribbons. In case anyone is anxious about the switch to Office 2007, most of the dialog boxes, once you get to them from the ribbon, are the same as the ones in Office 2003 were, so getting to the options you need isn't really all that different.

Sue B.

George B wrote:

Dave eather have I they are kind of confusing let me know what you figure out.

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 04:11
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Alternative Word-2003 menus for Word 2007

Anyone actually tried to use these? They seem to be templates but I've not been able to make them work.

Dave

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 03:55

Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

I can go one step further.  Below is the link to a web site from which you can download a free add-on to Word 2007 that adds the classic Word 2003 menus.  This way, you can have your cake and eat it too.  If you are befuddled by Word 2007's ribbon menus, you can just switch to the more familiar Word 2003 menus.

Gerald

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:20 PM

Subject: RE: page layout in word 2007

Can you tell me what Kim koomandos web site is please?


From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:52 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

Hi,  Kim Koomando posted a program on her Cool Site of the Day on May 19th that described a free program to replace the Word 2007 Ribbon with all your familiar menus.

If you search her site I expect you can find this particular post and the link to the company that provides the download.  Good luck, Mitch

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: page layout in word 2007

John,

Welcome to the confusing world of Office 2007 and the ribbon!

You'll probably spend a lot of time groping around the ribbon, looking for your old familiar dialog boxes. It wasn't easy for me.

Simply to answer your question:

Alt-p

Down arrow

Tab 4 times

Enter

Dave

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 14:16

Subject: page layout in word 2007

Hi: I just installed word 2007 and when I go to page layout to hopefully get to margin setings, it says hit tab or shiftt Alt followed by p. when I use tab or shift tab it talks about help and alt and P do nothing. Any help would be appreciated. John Fioravanti



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