[isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
- From: "Gerald G. Young" <g.young@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 14:45:26 -0500
So if a person was to enthusiastically lie about thinking to know it
all, would that count? ;)
Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Applications Engineer, Platform Engineering
Enterprise Hosting
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Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>
> From what I've seen of MVP's you don't have to be a pro, just
enthusiastic.
> Besides anyone that thinks they know it all is lying.
>
> Amy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of John T (Lists)
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:51 PM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>
> I took lurk although I am far from being a ISA Pro let alone a MVP.
>
> John T
> eServices For You
>
> "Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be
understood."
> Ralph Waldo Emerson (1802-1882)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> > Of Gerald G. Young
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:22 AM
> > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> >
> > Well, not entirely private. ;) I lurk and chime in - usually on
things
> > not really focused on ISA but I'm learning as I read. Besides,
there is
> > plenty of entertainment that comes across the list
*coughanthonycough*
> > that keeps me interested in knowing what everyone is up to.
> >
> > Cordially yours,
> > Jerry G. Young II
> > Applications Engineer, Platform Engineering
> > Enterprise Hosting
> > NTT America, an NTT Communications Company
> >
> > 22451 Shaw Rd.
> > Sterling, VA 20166
> >
> > Office: 571-434-1319
> > Fax: 703-333-6749
> > Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:03 AM
> > > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >
> > > Guess I don't really care what you call the list or where it
resides.
> > Just
> > > so long as people with a vested interest in ISA can find it and
the
> > ISA PM
> > > and other MS people are also members. It would be nice if Jim
could
> > catch
> > > a break and not be the only guy out there. This list is good but
it's
> > a
> > > pretty private group.
> > >
> > > Amy Babinchak
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:29 AM
> > > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >
> > > If you're going to get them anywhere, it will be over here on this
> > list.
> > > Even if not, Jim joining up with that one again isn't going to
change
> > that.
> > > If the concern is that "ISA needs a community" then like I said
> > before,
> > > we've already got one. If it is "ISA MVP's need a community"
(like,
> > > exclusively) then it looks like you are the only one that thinks
that,
> > > even
> > > among the other ISA MVP's (even the one that you know).
> > >
> > > To me, the REAL value of a true "community" comes from the bond
being
> > > interest and passion for the product itself, and not some
arbitrary
> > 3rd
> > > party affiliation (like "MVP"). That's evident in the fate of
that
> > ISA-
> > > MVP
> > > list. Hell, it even had other area MVP's in it (like me) but it
still
> > > sucked.
> > >
> > > Technically, this list is superior to any other list out there -
you
> > can
> > > still help perpetuate the ISA community, but it looks like the
best
> > way to
> > > do that is to bag the ISA MVP list altogether unless you really
think
> > you
> > > can repair the extensive damage its reputation suffered.
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/1/06 6:59 AM, "Amy Babinchak"
<amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > spoketh
> > > to all:
> > >
> > > > Yeah but that conference only happens once every 2 years. Where
are
> > they
> > > > the rest of the time?
> > > >
> > > > Amy Babinchak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:50 AM
> > > > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >
> > > > Hi Amy,
> > > >
> > > > OK, got it.
> > > >
> > > > That's the value of the worldwide MVP conference, which is
happening
> > in
> > > > just about four months. A lot of them show up during the
conference
> > and
> > > > it's nice to see that there are quite a few MVPs in ISA. You get
> > face
> > > > time with the PG, and I'm really hoping that they'll have some
ISA
> > 2008
> > > > stuff for us this year to mull over.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > > MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy
Babinchak
> > > >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:44 AM
> > > >> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>
> > > >> We're not talking about the list, we just talking about ISA
MVP's
> > in
> > > >> general. I can only name 2 - you and me. Not much of a
community.
> > > >>
> > > >> Amy Babinchak
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:26 AM
> > > >> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>
> > > >> I ain't on that list no mo'.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > >> Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > >> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > >> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > >> MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Harrison
> > > >>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:19 AM
> > > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Lessee...
> > > >>> There's Amy Babinchak.
> > > >>> :-p
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >>> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > > >>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:49 AM
> > > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I don't even know who the ISA MVP's are. Tom's one. I think
> > > >> that he's
> > > >>> the only one I know.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Amy Babinchak
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >>> On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:31 PM
> > > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In my humble opinion...there are only a handful of people on
all
> > the
> > > >>> lists that I subscribe to that actually deserve the title
> > MVP....the
> > > >>> rest...all bumblers that I wouldn't give 5 minutes to...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Steve
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >>> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:06 PM
> > > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well that's part of the point. The ISA MVP list is supposed to
be
> > a
> > > >>> place where MVP's can interact with the product team. The
> > > >> product team
> > > >>> has been pretty much silent, with the notable exception of
Jim.
> > Jim
> > > >>> shouldn't be left hanging as the only community guy on the
inside.
> > > >>> There's really no community is no one at Microsoft is
listening
> > and
> > > >>> participating.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Amy Babinchak
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >>> On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:28 PM
> > > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well, that's a good start. But we *already have* an ISA
> > > >> community over
> > > >>> here, and we're not limited by "presumed NDA" conversations...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In my opinion, I've gotten far more value from this list and
the
> > > >>> existing ISA communities than anything I got from the ISA MVP
list
> > -
> > > >>> that's one of the reasons I left that list (among others).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Just my opinion, of course.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> t
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 11/30/06 11:05 AM, "Amy Babinchak"
> > > >> <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>> spoketh to all:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> FYI: Susan has left the ISA MVP list and made me the
> > > >> admin. You are
> > > >>>> welcome to re-join if you wish. ISA needs a community.
> > Communities
> > > >>> help
> > > >>>> build good products that work for companies deploying them.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Amy Babinchak
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.
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