[isapros] Re: ISA MVP List

Except for all the ISA MVP's you mean?  :-ppppp

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On 12/1/06 8:03 AM, "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh
to all:

> Guess I don't really care what you call the list or where it resides. Just so
> long as people with a vested interest in ISA can find it and the ISA PM and
> other MS people are also members. It would be nice if Jim could catch a break
> and not be the only guy out there. This list is good but it's a pretty private
> group.
> 
> Amy Babinchak
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:29 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> 
> If you're going to get them anywhere, it will be over here on this list.
> Even if not, Jim joining up with that one again isn't going to change that.
> If the concern is that "ISA needs a community" then like I said before,
> we've already got one.  If it is "ISA MVP's need a community" (like,
> exclusively) then it looks like you are the only one that thinks that, even
> among the other ISA MVP's (even the one that you know).
> 
> To me, the REAL value of a true "community" comes from the bond being
> interest and passion for the product itself, and not some arbitrary 3rd
> party affiliation (like "MVP").  That's evident in the fate of that ISA-MVP
> list.  Hell, it even had other area MVP's in it (like me) but it still
> sucked. 
> 
> Technically, this list is superior to any other list out there - you can
> still help perpetuate the ISA community, but it looks like the best way to
> do that is to bag the ISA MVP list altogether unless you really think you
> can repair the extensive damage its reputation suffered.
> 
> t
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> On 12/1/06 6:59 AM, "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> spoketh
> to all:
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>> Yeah but that conference only happens once every 2 years. Where are they
>> the rest of the time?
>> 
>> Amy Babinchak
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:50 AM
>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>> 
>> Hi Amy,
>> 
>> OK, got it.
>> 
>> That's the value of the worldwide MVP conference, which is happening in
>> just about four months. A lot of them show up during the conference and
>> it's nice to see that there are quite a few MVPs in ISA. You get face
>> time with the PG, and I'm really hoping that they'll have some ISA 2008
>> stuff for us this year to mull over.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>> MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:44 AM
>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>> 
>>> We're not talking about the list, we just talking about ISA MVP's in
>>> general. I can only name 2 - you and me. Not much of a community.
>>> 
>>> Amy Babinchak
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:26 AM
>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>> 
>>> I ain't on that list no mo'.
>>> 
>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>> MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:19 AM
>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>>> 
>>>> Lessee...
>>>> There's Amy Babinchak.
>>>> :-p
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:49 AM
>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>>> 
>>>> I don't even know who the ISA MVP's are. Tom's one. I think
>>> that he's
>>>> the only one I know.
>>>> 
>>>> Amy Babinchak
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:31 PM
>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>>> 
>>>> In my humble opinion...there are only a handful of people on all the
>>>> lists that I subscribe to that actually deserve the title MVP....the
>>>> rest...all bumblers that I wouldn't give 5 minutes to...
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:06 PM
>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>>> 
>>>> Well that's part of the point. The ISA MVP list is supposed to be a
>>>> place where MVP's can interact with the product team. The
>>> product team
>>>> has been pretty much silent, with the notable exception of Jim. Jim
>>>> shouldn't be left hanging as the only community guy on the inside.
>>>> There's really no community is no one at Microsoft is listening and
>>>> participating.
>>>> 
>>>> Amy Babinchak
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:28 PM
>>>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>>>> 
>>>> Well, that's a good start. But we *already have* an ISA
>>> community over
>>>> here, and we're not limited by "presumed NDA" conversations...
>>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, I've gotten far more value from this list and the
>>>> existing ISA communities than anything I got from the ISA MVP list -
>>>> that's one of the reasons I left that list (among others).
>>>> 
>>>> Just my opinion, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> t
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/30/06 11:05 AM, "Amy Babinchak"
>>> <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> spoketh to all:
>>>> 
>>>>> FYI: Susan has left the ISA MVP list and made me the
>>> admin. You are 
>>>>> welcome to re-join if you wish. ISA needs a community. Communities
>>>> help
>>>>> build good products that work for companies deploying them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amy Babinchak
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