RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
- From: Alexandre Gauthier <gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:19:10 -0500
It always amazes me on how anything related to command line or anything that
is text only will make many Windows admins automatically say it's hard or
unpleasant.
I for one, think text mode = light, which = simplicity.
It's not that counter intuitive, but simple - and thus less error prone,
more straightforward. I don't need tha bling bling.
But then again that is my opinion. Having manual also ensures you have
competent administrators :-)
Blind patching is my personal equivalent of Dr.Shinder's "hardware firewall"
or the "open port button".
But you know discussing this point on a ISA mailing list is pointless, since
I assume most of those who moan about Cisco to be doing ISA for a living -
it's what they know best. On a Cisco mailing list, that would be different,
since they know Cisco best, and probably only vaguely heard of ISA and ditch
it in the same way.
It all comes to an e-peepee size fight that comes stunningly close to
downright fanboyism.
And somehow making posts just to ditch the lastest PIX or anything cisco
does that is wrong strikes me as vaguely childish and reeks of
self-justification, somehow... I don't know. I try to stand neutral in my
recommendations.
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De : Tiago de Aviz [mailto:Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Envoyé : 31 octobre 2005 08:01
À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Objet : [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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I think that it could be easier, less-manual. I've dont it several times
myself, but I don't find it amusing to do. Cisco could do some better
research to make things better to upgrade and maintain.
Tiago de Aviz
SoftSell - Curitiba
(41) 3340-2363
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>>> thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 30/10/2005 17:00 >>>
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Hi Dr. Shanker-
I have several about the country at my different facilities- mainly for t1's
and integrated voice/data circuits. Damn good routers, if you asked me.
I've got some that are still in operation after 8 years of constant use, and
have never had a single problem with any of them-not even a fan going out.
But yes, it is that sort of performance that make people forget they even
have them, and thus, do not think they need attention. I totally agree with
you on that point. If Pescatoodles had any real insight (as you do) then he
would have made that point rather than blithe on about how "really really
really hard" it is to update the IOS. But hey, it may actually be really,
really, really hard for him. Copying over a .bin file, or just replacing
one in the tftp boot server and cycling the router is something my 4 year
can do, but I guess not everyone has his skilz ;)
t
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