That was the topic of an article I just read recently, how the Cisco IOS is not really an update, but a total re-install of the IOS. Because of that, most Cisco owners don't update them. I'll have to try to find where I read that article and post a link... -----Original Message----- From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:17 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall http://www.ISAserver.org Tom, More exposure for ISA is a good thing. But what's your experience with hardware firewalls? Mine is that they sit until they die and never get updated. Companies that own them treat them like the copy machine. They just keep using it and essentially ignoring it until they die. As long as it's working, it's a no touch item. Both the copy machine and the firewall tend to be the oldest hardware in the office. At least a "server" they can understand needs to be kept up to date. Amy Harbor Computer Services Small Business Computer Specialists Client Blog: http://smalltechnotes.blogspot.com/ Tech Blog: http://isainsbs.blogspot.com/ Website: http://www.harborcomputerservices.net/ -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:15 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall http://www.ISAserver.org Run PIX, run! http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/Blog/cns!1p9yz6owxXl-uIlyqIZXkCrg!27 1.entry :-) Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA Firewalls **Who is John Galt?**