RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
- From: "Thor \(Hammer of God\)" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 11:04:48 -0800
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Rember those days?? ;)
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From: "Ball, Dan" <DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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Not lucky, just more familiar with command-line usage than most IT personnel
nowadays. It may not seem like it to you or I, but for someone not familiar
with entering commands from the prompt it is a very difficult procedure.
That was one of the reasons why I struggled to keep the Operating Systems
class at the local University the way it was, they wanted me to switch to
teaching Windows only instead of starting with DOS and showing the
evolution. I tried to stress the importance of knowing how to use the
command-line even in the most modern Operating Systems. Needless to say, I
don't teach those classes anymore...
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:22 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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I must be lucky... I just copy over the .bin file, reload, confirm my
config, re-save the running config to startup and move on. I've never
really had a problem updating my IOS, and I was one of the early deployers
of Voice over Frame with the MC3810 series (which went through several
revisions). I've been doing it for years and years now.
Do you other folks really have that much trouble upgrading Cisco IOS? I was
not surprised to hear Pescatore bitch about it, but that is for a different
matter completely..
t
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From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 1:56 PM
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Hell, who wouldn't want a self-update mechanism? Updating IOS is so
painful that you're almost giving up when you think about it.
That's a Cisco-Engineer trouble ticket generator, that's what it is.
Same old story as the hardware firewall: As long as it's flowing hot
air, it's ok.
Tiago de Aviz
SoftSell - Curitiba
(41) 3340-2363
www.softsell.com.br
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Here is it, from Tuesday's SANS NewsBites Vol. 7 Num. 47:
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--Cisco Customers Unaccustomed to Updates
(20 October 2005)
Cisco CSO John Stewart says that because Cisco customers are
unaccustomed to updating their network hardware operating system on a
regular basis, many are still running old versions of the company's
Internetwork Operating System (IOS). Mr. Stewart says Cisco has not
adopted automatic patching because its customers do not want it. He
hopes that the outcome of an unexpected vulnerability disclosure
earlier
this year will be that Cisco IOS users upgrade to the latest version
to
protect their systems.
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/print.htm?TYPE=story&AT=39217949-2
000061744t-10000005c
[Editor's Note (Pescatore): The issue is more that it has been really,
really painful to update IOS. It isn't a patch action, it is a shut
down and reload the OS action, which is very disruptive to the network
and very manpower intensive. While the best solution is always better
software development processes to reduce vulnerabilities, software
vendors (and switch vendors ship a lot of software) have to invest a
lot
to make the patch process easier and faster for their customers.
Microsoft learned this back during the worms of 2001 and now most
enterprises can patch Windows much, much faster with much less pain.]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:41 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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Hi Dan,
That would be great!
Thanks!
Tom
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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**Who is John Galt?**
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