RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:50:03 -0500
Hi Dan,
Thanks!
Tom
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 8:09 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
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> Here is it, from Tuesday's SANS NewsBites Vol. 7 Num. 47:
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> --Cisco Customers Unaccustomed to Updates
> (20 October 2005)
> Cisco CSO John Stewart says that because Cisco customers are
> unaccustomed to updating their network hardware operating system on a
> regular basis, many are still running old versions of the company's
> Internetwork Operating System (IOS). Mr. Stewart says Cisco has not
> adopted automatic patching because its customers do not want it. He
> hopes that the outcome of an unexpected vulnerability
> disclosure earlier
> this year will be that Cisco IOS users upgrade to the latest
> version to
> protect their systems.
> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/print.htm?TYPE=story&AT=
> 39217949-2
> 000061744t-10000005c
> [Editor's Note (Pescatore): The issue is more that it has been really,
> really painful to update IOS. It isn't a patch action, it is a shut
> down and reload the OS action, which is very disruptive to the network
> and very manpower intensive. While the best solution is always better
> software development processes to reduce vulnerabilities, software
> vendors (and switch vendors ship a lot of software) have to
> invest a lot
> to make the patch process easier and faster for their customers.
> Microsoft learned this back during the worms of 2001 and now most
> enterprises can patch Windows much, much faster with much less pain.]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:41 PM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
>
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>
> Hi Dan,
>
> That would be great!
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> **Who is John Galt?**
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:35 PM
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> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
> >
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> >
> > That was the topic of an article I just read recently, how
> > the Cisco IOS
> > is not really an update, but a total re-install of the IOS.
> > Because of
> > that, most Cisco owners don't update them.
> >
> > I'll have to try to find where I read that article and post
> a link...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:17 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > More exposure for ISA is a good thing. But what's your
> experience with
> > hardware firewalls? Mine is that they sit until they die
> and never get
> > updated. Companies that own them treat them like the copy
> > machine. They
> > just keep using it and essentially ignoring it until they
> die. As long
> > as it's working, it's a no touch item. Both the copy machine and the
> > firewall tend to be the oldest hardware in the office.
> >
> > At least a "server" they can understand needs to be kept up to date.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> > Harbor Computer Services
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:15 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] Nortel ISA Hardware Firewall
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Run PIX, run!
> >
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/Blog/cns!1p9yz6owxXl-uIlyq
> > IZXkCrg!27
> > 1.entry
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > **Who is John Galt?**
> >
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