[haiku-development] Re: What's the status of Haiku?
- From: David Ferguson <dfergatl@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku-development@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:27:06 -0400
I feel the same way 12 years of waiting, years of "almost there" I
recently download a nightly and while I like it, It crashes a lot. Even
with all the work done on Webkit and Webpositive I can't even begin to
count the number of times it has crashed. I filed some tickets and then
gave up trying to use it.
I too am a little confused as to what the devs want. I was always of the
opinion that the goal was an OS usable by a large number of people. But
over time it seems to be just a hobby OS that will never get to a finished
state, kind of like Aros.
There has been talk of getting an Alpha 5 out, Alpha 5! I can't even image
the amount of jokes that will be made about yet an other alpha.
There was mention that they it may be a year to a year and half before R1
is done. That would make R1 only 15 years behind the times.
Devs talk about thinking GPU acceleration isn't needed for R1. But as
others have pointed out web surfing without gpu assistance nowerdays is
slow and painful and will only get more so over time.
I can't help but start to think that by the time R1 gets here Haiku will be
so far behind any other OS, that it will just be a joke.
I don't like Windows and I am not a desktop Linux fan either. I have spent
years hoping that Haiku would bring a open source desktop that was fun to
use. But, over the last year or two I have begun to realize that this may
be just a hobby OS that will not be useable by most people.
Just how I feel.
David
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Wayne Peter Corwin <
wayne.peter.corwin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Figured I'd add my two cents along with a question about the project.
>
> I have followed this project with interest since the very beginning,
> tracking zeta/magnussoft/yellowtab in hopes of a commercial alternative,
> and I watched the TiltOS fork fail, and I have generally waited patiently
> for a BeOS clone. One I can use every day on a couple of my computers as I
> have a fair amount of BeOS software I'd like to use (yes, I'm getting
> old...)
>
> Every year, I try Haiku on actual hardware to see where it's at, and every
> year I'm eventually stuck. Much of the software I have never really works
> on Haiku. So I dutifully register tickets and then I forget about it until
> I see some news flash fueling my hopes once again.
>
> Basically, I'm confused what Haiku - the project - really is.
>
> Is it a hobbyist OS project for a small group of people, or is it a
> serious attempt? I've always believed the latter, because the project is
> pretty good at selling the idea and establishing expectations of an
> imminent production quality BeOS clone. Taking donations, mentoring GSoCs,
> doing magazine interviews and writing articles that claim 1.0 is almost
> ready (the ieee one at least)
>
> I think all those things are _good_ if the project delivers. I don't feel
> it does, at least not to the expectations I've had (maybe ill-conceived
> ones?)
>
> While I don't like everything about Linux and have no experience with
> FreeBSD, I do think it's time to consider alternatives if this is a serious
> project. The variation in hardware out there is just staggering and I can't
> see how you can possibly keep up. If it's "just" a hobbyist OS project for
> a few people, then I suppose this discussion is irrelevant.
>
> I just wonder what's the case here, because the replies I've seen from
> core members leaves anything but a consistent view.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> -wpc
>
>
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