I like the idea of a Haiku built on Linux or FreeBSD kernel, but surely don't want to scrap Haiku with its own kernel. The two projects can live in peaceful coexistence. I still would like to see Haiku with its own kernel rather than lose its identity. It will still be necessary/useful to port hardware device drivers from BSD and Linux. I'm thinking in particular about USB 3.0 and USB wi-fi. I remember reading about a Linux dressed up to look like BeOS some years ago but don't remember the name or details. Hybrid OSes have precedent: I believe Debian, Arch and Gentoo are working on Debian/Arch/Gentoo-style userland on top of FreeBSD kernel, though I never tried any of those. I can't see why FreeBSD should be considered unsuitable as a desktop OS. Neither do the PC-BSD people. I see Haiku is already being developed for ppc, m68k and arm, and I don't think Haiku should ignore the trend toward mobile computing, not to ignore the primary focus toward desktop (and laptop/notebook/) computers. Tom