On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mandy <steelgreypittsburgh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > --> my issue with "no drink tickets" is, what is my money buying > (rhetorically) > > at least if you get drink tickets you get something. <-- > > I think you just made my point for me - better than I have been trying to > anyway (I get too wordy) :) > > This is how I see what you're getting if drink tickets are used: > * If you're a drinker, you're getting to pay $10. $5 for admission and $5 > for a beer you could have gotten for $2. > * If you're not a drinker, you're getting to pay $10 for admission, and free > soda if you drink soda. > > Not fair to either party, really. > > Also, use of drink tickets cannot be "carefree" and managed only by OTB. > Here's why: > * Someone from the shop has to give them out to those that have purchased. > * Someone from the shop *absolutely has to* keep a close count on how many > are given out (this is protecting the group if nothing else - what happens > at the end of the night when that bowl of tickets contains more than we gave > out, thus having no funds to cover all of them?) > * Somone from the shop at the end of the night has to pay the bar for the > tickets they've collected. Which means someone has to stick around until > the bitter end and everyone has cleared out (at least from our party). > Staying until 2am is going to suck when you have to get up and go to work > Wednesday morning. > > And sticking around to pay the bar brings me to my last point. If the bar > is offering things to us for free, there's no reason we should be paying the > bar for anything, or giving them a cut of our proceeds, be it from drink > tickets or anything else. > * OTB would not be allowing us to have our party there for free if they were > not already going to make money on it. Plain and simple. It's a business, > and we're drawing a crowd of people into that business. > * Essentially, this is barter. They're certainly not going to pay any of us > for the time we're going to spend making posters or blazing around the > internet the fact that we want people to go to their bar. Free marketing = > free space. > * Going to bring this back up: We didn't pay the Brillobox a single dollar, > and THEY gave US drinks for free. cynically: so why aren't we going back there?