[hackpgh-party] Re: Drink Tickets? Ticket price? Name?

  • From: Derrick Brashear <shadow@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hackpgh-party@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:09:01 -0500

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mandy <steelgreypittsburgh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> --> my issue with "no drink tickets" is, what is my money buying
> (rhetorically)
>
> at least if you get drink tickets you get something. <--
>
> I think you just made my point for me - better than I have been trying to
> anyway (I get too wordy) :)
>
> This is how I see what you're getting if drink tickets are used:
> * If you're a drinker, you're getting to pay $10.  $5 for admission and $5
> for a beer you could have gotten for $2.
> * If you're not a drinker, you're getting to pay $10 for admission, and free
> soda if you drink soda.
>
> Not fair to either party, really.
>
> Also, use of drink tickets cannot be "carefree" and managed only by OTB.
> Here's why:
> * Someone from the shop has to give them out to those that have purchased.
> * Someone from the shop *absolutely has to* keep a close count on how many
> are given out (this is protecting the group if nothing else - what happens
> at the end of the night when that bowl of tickets contains more than we gave
> out, thus having no funds to cover all of them?)
> * Somone from the shop at the end of the night has to pay the bar for the
> tickets they've collected.  Which means someone has to stick around until
> the bitter end and everyone has cleared out (at least from our party).
> Staying until 2am is going to suck when you have to get up and go to work
> Wednesday morning.
>
> And sticking around to pay the bar brings me to my last point.  If the bar
> is offering things to us for free, there's no reason we should be paying the
> bar for anything, or giving them a cut of our proceeds, be it from drink
> tickets or anything else.
> * OTB would not be allowing us to have our party there for free if they were
> not already going to make money on it.  Plain and simple.  It's a business,
> and we're drawing a crowd of people into that business.
> * Essentially, this is barter.  They're certainly not going to pay any of us
> for the time we're going to spend making posters or blazing around the
> internet the fact that we want people to go to their bar.  Free marketing =
> free space.
> * Going to bring this back up: We didn't pay the Brillobox a single dollar,
> and THEY gave US drinks for free.

cynically: so why aren't we going back there?

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