[hackpgh-party] Re: Drink Tickets? Ticket price? Name?
- From: gwen <gwenix@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: hackpgh-party@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:25:45 -0500
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Mandy <steelgreypittsburgh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> --> my issue with "no drink tickets" is, what is my money buying
> (rhetorically)
>
> at least if you get drink tickets you get something. <--
>
> I think you just made my point for me - better than I have been trying to
> anyway (I get too wordy) :)
>
> This is how I see what you're getting if drink tickets are used:
> * If you're a drinker, you're getting to pay $10. $5 for admission and $5
> for a beer you could have gotten for $2.
> * If you're not a drinker, you're getting to pay $10 for admission, and free
> soda if you drink soda.
>
> Not fair to either party, really.
We know this because we're here and know that we're considering $5
reduction if we don't do drink tickets. But to someone walking up,
they see "$10 cover". The drink ticket would just be a bonus to
them... they have no idea that it's $5 of their ticket price.
Further, I'd be happy to not say "drink worth up to $5" but instead
have "ticket good for one of the following drinks: .." It's all about
presentation.
> Also, use of drink tickets cannot be "carefree" and managed only by OTB.
> Here's why:
> * Someone from the shop has to give them out to those that have purchased.
Well, we'd be doing that for anything we're including in the price, I
figured a drink ticket would go in the goody bag. This one isn't
really a huge deal, as we're giving out other stuff too.
> * Someone from the shop *absolutely has to* keep a close count on how many
> are given out (this is protecting the group if nothing else - what happens
> at the end of the night when that bowl of tickets contains more than we gave
> out, thus having no funds to cover all of them?)
This is easy, protect the roll. Yes, it would have to be protected,
so that's some fussy.
> * Somone from the shop at the end of the night has to pay the bar for the
> tickets they've collected. Which means someone has to stick around until
> the bitter end and everyone has cleared out (at least from our party).
> Staying until 2am is going to suck when you have to get up and go to work
> Wednesday morning.
I figure I'm staying until 2am regardless, because there's also
cleanup and such to do. It'll suck at work the next day, yes, but
I'll deal for the one day.
> And sticking around to pay the bar brings me to my last point. If the bar
> is offering things to us for free, there's no reason we should be paying the
> bar for anything, or giving them a cut of our proceeds, be it from drink
> tickets or anything else.
> * OTB would not be allowing us to have our party there for free if they were
> not already going to make money on it. Plain and simple. It's a business,
> and we're drawing a crowd of people into that business.
> * Essentially, this is barter. They're certainly not going to pay any of us
> for the time we're going to spend making posters or blazing around the
> internet the fact that we want people to go to their bar. Free marketing =
> free space.
> * Going to bring this back up: We didn't pay the Brillobox a single dollar,
> and THEY gave US drinks for free.
I'm uncomfortable with the attitude that we're doing OTB a favor by
hosting our party there. Yes, you're right that we're bringing in
business for them, but do not forget that they're doing us favors as
well by being exceedingly gracious.
I'm very glad the Brillobox is also exceedingly gracious, but we
shouldn't ever fall into the trap of, "Well, they offered us better,
so why should we expect anything less from this place?" That would
only lead us to, "So why aren't we hosting at the other place?"
The more gracious we are back towards the venue, the more likely it is
that they will give us more favors to host with them in the future.
I.e., if they love us, they will absolutely want us to come back and
will make things very nice for us to do so. That's also good
business. And it's also good business for us to build up a reputation
as being wonderful clients to host.
--
Gwendolyn R. Schmidt
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